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the Abyss dimension was stated to be a 5D dimension and they view lower beings as characters on a page which comes from this quote :
"それは、文字通りの意味で、異なる次元の世界でした。それをアストラル界、スピリットワールド、 またはアビスと呼んでください。
それはいくつもの名前で呼ばれていましたが、簡単に言えば、 長さ、 幅、高さが追加の5次元で補完された世界でした。
男はその次元と三次元空間の間を自由に移動することができました。それは信じられないほど強力な能力でした。
その次元を通過することで、彼は好きな場所に行き、攻撃を避けることができました。
彼が示したように、彼はそれを使ってあらゆる種類の防御を迂回し、内部から敵を破壊することさえできました。
その上、 普通の人間はこの次元を知覚することができず、 彼らが反撃することを不可能にしました。
この下の存在ページ上の文字としてのみ表示されます。 寸法の違いのため"
Translation :
" It was a world of different dimensions, in the literal sense of the word. Call it the Astral Realm, the Spirit World, or the Abyss.
It was called by a number of names, but simply put, it was a world whose length, width, and height were complemented by an additional fifth dimension.
The man was able to move freely between that dimension and three-dimensional space. It was an incredibly powerful ability.
By passing through that dimension, he could go anywhere he wanted and avoid any attacks.
As he had shown, he could use it to bypass all sorts of defenses and even destroy his enemies from the inside.
Besides, ordinary humans could not perceive this dimension, making it impossible for them to fight back.
The lower beings appears only as a character on a page. Due to the difference in dimensions. "
Coming from this thread .
However the Official translation says an other thing :
The Official translation treats the Abyss as a 4D dimension while the quote above says it's a 5D dimension and not only that but also the statement about "seeing lower beings as characters on a page" isn't even mentioned anywhere in the Official translation and instead it says that "someoen with that level of power see the whole humanity as insects" and this makes me feel that the Abyss quote that was brought up in the upgrade thread was being manipulated, while Official translation could contain mistranslations except there is absolutely no way you can mistake 4 by 5 the fact that the quote above says that the Abyss is a 5D dimension but the Official translation says it's a 4D dimension is an enough proof for me that the scans were being manipulated since there is absolutely no way you someone can mistake "4" by "5" no matter how bad the translation is unless said person is completely blind.
My Suggestion :
1) HRE and all beings who scales to the Abyss should be downgraded to their previous tier until we see the Physical Japanese raw for the Abyss dimension and not just some quotes that can easily be manipulated
2) considering Lapsad is the one who braught up the Abyss quote in the Upgrade thread I would like for him to come here and bring the physical Japanese raw
"それは、文字通りの意味で、異なる次元の世界でした。それをアストラル界、スピリットワールド、 またはアビスと呼んでください。
それはいくつもの名前で呼ばれていましたが、簡単に言えば、 長さ、 幅、高さが追加の5次元で補完された世界でした。
男はその次元と三次元空間の間を自由に移動することができました。それは信じられないほど強力な能力でした。
その次元を通過することで、彼は好きな場所に行き、攻撃を避けることができました。
彼が示したように、彼はそれを使ってあらゆる種類の防御を迂回し、内部から敵を破壊することさえできました。
その上、 普通の人間はこの次元を知覚することができず、 彼らが反撃することを不可能にしました。
この下の存在ページ上の文字としてのみ表示されます。 寸法の違いのため"
Translation :
" It was a world of different dimensions, in the literal sense of the word. Call it the Astral Realm, the Spirit World, or the Abyss.
It was called by a number of names, but simply put, it was a world whose length, width, and height were complemented by an additional fifth dimension.
The man was able to move freely between that dimension and three-dimensional space. It was an incredibly powerful ability.
By passing through that dimension, he could go anywhere he wanted and avoid any attacks.
As he had shown, he could use it to bypass all sorts of defenses and even destroy his enemies from the inside.
Besides, ordinary humans could not perceive this dimension, making it impossible for them to fight back.
The lower beings appears only as a character on a page. Due to the difference in dimensions. "
Coming from this thread .
However the Official translation says an other thing :
The Official translation treats the Abyss as a 4D dimension while the quote above says it's a 5D dimension and not only that but also the statement about "seeing lower beings as characters on a page" isn't even mentioned anywhere in the Official translation and instead it says that "someoen with that level of power see the whole humanity as insects" and this makes me feel that the Abyss quote that was brought up in the upgrade thread was being manipulated, while Official translation could contain mistranslations except there is absolutely no way you can mistake 4 by 5 the fact that the quote above says that the Abyss is a 5D dimension but the Official translation says it's a 4D dimension is an enough proof for me that the scans were being manipulated since there is absolutely no way you someone can mistake "4" by "5" no matter how bad the translation is unless said person is completely blind.
My Suggestion :
1) HRE and all beings who scales to the Abyss should be downgraded to their previous tier until we see the Physical Japanese raw for the Abyss dimension and not just some quotes that can easily be manipulated
2) considering Lapsad is the one who braught up the Abyss quote in the Upgrade thread I would like for him to come here and bring the physical Japanese raw
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