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instant death acausality 4 removal

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Nuking Yogiri's plot manipulation and more (instant death)

Hello and welcome back to the never-ending quest to make Instant Death get to the place it deserves to be. Today we will be looking over Plot manipulation and the rest of the abilities in that section Verse - Instant death Profile - Yogiri The following is the justification for Plot...
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Instant Death Gods causality stuff ig

So, since I think only one other thread is available right now, it should be fine to make another one since the other one will pass today. Right now, Gods have this as a justification for their acausality: Acausality (4; Comparable to Heavenly Record Eater who exist outside of heavenly record...
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the verse's plot stuff and acausality stuff is not a thing anymore so this entire thing needs to be nuked:

"Exists outside the system of the heavenly records and space-time. It is imperceptible / incomprehensible even from the point of view of acausal beings such as the HRE, and is stated to be beyond fate, plot and causality itself."
 
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also this needs to go
"even from the point of view of acausal beings such as the HRE"

HRE does not qualify for acausality 4 anymore
 
agree with removal of the plot part but not with the acausality 4 removal
entirely imperceptible, and it knew no way of freeing itself from it. That absolute absurdity somehow transcended cause and effect.
Malna couldn’t connect the effect to any cause related to Yogiri. Even as a god, her eyes hadn’t seen anything. Yogiri had told her to die, and suddenly Rilna was motionless. That was all. There didn’t seem to be anything connecting those two facts, so she couldn’t even recognize that Yogiri possessed an instant death power.
They had just dropped dead. They had ceased to function. There didn’t seem to be any cause to the effect or an activation of any power.
 
sukuna171 said:
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First scan : Just because the HRE turned back time a few second and Yogiri still "locked" unto him. It's not being acausal, especially since we don't know if the HRE could turn back time solely in the CF or the whole cosmology (probably the former).

Second scan : "No cause and effect" but Yogiri still decided to kill someone, which caused said person to die. It's just that there is nothing "visible".

Third scan : same.
 
SweetDao said:
First scan : Just because the HRE turned back time a few second and Yogiri still "locked" unto him. It's not being acausal, especially since we don't know if the HRE could turn back time solely in the CF or the whole cosmology (probably the former).

Second scan : "No cause and effect" but Yogiri still decided to kill someone, which caused said person to die. It's just that there is nothing "visible".

Third scan : same.
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I still think he should have acausality 4
 
sukuna171 said:
I don't think being law or rule disqualifies you from having acausality type 4
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He. Is. a. law. Of. the. Verse.

He. works. Under. The. Same. Causality. System. As. Everyone.

The only person who doesn't is Paella for now, since she's quite literally stated to NOT exert her strength through the "world".
 
To make things clear, accasualty 4 is for beings/entities that work on a different casualty system than normal. So Yogiri, working under the same casualty system as everyone else, is a direct anti-feat.
 
SweetDao said:
He. Is. a. law. Of. the. Verse.

He. works. Under. The. Same. Causality. System. As. Everyone.

The only person who doesn't is Paella for now, since she's quite literally stated to NOT exert her strength through the "world".
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I still disagree, though my opinion ultimately does not matter in the end
 
Robo432343 said:
i think we should also remove yogiri's resistance to mind manip
(Capable of staying in the presence of Vahanato)
Vahanato's presence doesn't mind hax people she has to speak words
she wasn't using mind hax against yogiri in the first place
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As in, she has to speak certain words or any words? Becuz idk, just looking at the scans, I'd say it's safe to assume resistance if not only is she scared shitless, but I'd assume there are instances where she was talking (unless these are like the only instances where they ever met).

Tho it could be Yogiri's instant auto death hax or smth. So maybe.
 
SweetDao said:
CM 1 is like, impossible, but I don't know if anyone of us make a CRT about it. Info is a bit more complicated to tackle, but it's mostly bullshit too yeah.

In any case, if there is CM2, it wouldn't be for CF.
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I have a good idea, unless it's well or badly summarized, haha. But for me, I think it's still CM2.
 
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