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The Castlevania wiki list Dracula's castle as the symbol of Dracula's magic.
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Stalker Maggot said:What reasons?
Archie Eggman is referred to many times in the story as the worst evil the world has ever know. Worst then the villain Mogul who has killed gods and become a god himself. Eggman is stated to having absolute control of his robots and machines. Does those statements of absolute control mean Eggman has the same abilities as his creations? No!TheSpeedster96 said:Dracula is stated to be evil itself so many times, and statements of having absolute control over the forces of chaos and darkness.
No they don't.TheSpeedster96 said:Soma has to absorb their souls to use them in the first place, his own profile makes it clear between how Dracula has them and Soma doesn't.
Yes, so?Inverted Tempest said:Your point on Lullaby was what exactly? You realize the quotes you provided ouright acknowledge they are part of Dracula's army and are made of pure darkness, right?
What? How does this quote "Devil Forgemasters are not mere sorcerers; they are not just trained in black magic, but also in the arts of alchemy and spiritual metaphysics, being able to craft massive weapons and arsenals from mere prime and raw materials of nearly any sort, as well as creating magical living beings with the forbidden knowledge they possess." prove Dracula can use the innocent Devil's powers without absorption?Inverted Tempest said:That means is still applies to Dracula. I'm not sure what you were pushing for here.
"Power Rings can block out and revert Transmutation, Matter Manipulation, Biological Manipulation, Corruption, and Mind Manipulation."Inverted Tempest said:K, what type of Corruption? Dracula's corruption entails physical, mental, and spiritual. The reverting doesn't seem to be clarified on the page of the Power Rings, so I'd like to what type they actually are. If it doesn't cover all three, then Dracula's Corruption would work plain and simple.
"Possession is the ability of a character to take control of another character by entering their mind, body, or soul. It is different from mind control, as it is done internally instead of externally. Traditionally in folklore and fiction, demons and ghosts most often have this power. Possession allows for many characters to escape death by hopping from one body to another, making it difficult to kill them.Inverted Tempest said:Dracula's Possession isn't just spiritual, which is what Enerjak's is. Sonic would resist that very specific type and that wouldn't give him a resistance to the Possession of the castle. This is also neglecting the fact that Sonic doesn't even have that listed on his profile at all. The only thing mentioned is that he has resistance to mind hax because he was unaffected by a hex that affected Knuckles and allowed him to possess Knuckles. The possession comes as a side effect if anything not from Finitevus's hex but from Enerjak himself. Therefore, Sonic doesn't scale to such a resistance and it's a completely moot point even if it were valid or not.
Fair, Sonic doesn't have resistance to Biological Manipulation but he has always been able to retain his speed. In order for Bio Manip. to work, it has to incap him, prevent him from further fighting. Which means, it needs to effect his mind as well.Inverted Tempest said:K, so there seems to be no resistance at all to the spiritual part of Dracula's corruption since it can influence even souls. Also, the problem with the Power Ring is that when Sonic was roboticized to become Mecha Sonic, the only thing the OBPR did was preserve his mental essence and didn't allow him to actually resist the effects.
"Power Over Humans: Vampires are influential and seductive creatures, whose dark aura extends into the hearts and minds of men. They can easily control human minds, often passively, turning them into their mindless slaves, possessing them, or even charming them."Inverted Tempest said:Then Dracula's Possession also still affects Sonic as well if you admit that. We already covered the Power Ring stuff isn't applicable in this case as well before. I am failing to see where the resistance to anything spiritual is mentioned as well. I already addressed the fact Sonic isn't genuinely resisting anything spiritual there, the most that happened was mind hax which still isn't covering what Dracula does physically and spiritually to Sonic.
Sonic would still need to be incap for 24 hours under VSBW rules for it to be Dracula's victory and Sonic was breaking through Robotnik's "Brain-Burn-Thru software" in under an hour. Also, incaps don't work if they are permanent, as Sonic's FateHax always allows Sonic to win in the end.Inverted Tempest said:What does retaining his speed have to do with anything? Also, no, incap just implies he can no longer fight anymore, it's nothing about has to not be able to move. Rohan Kishibe can write into somebody like Koichi, "You cannot attack Rohan Kishibe," and that still counts as incap because Koichi can no longer fight him with any of his abilities. As long as Sonic is being affected and can no longer fight, in this case he would become one of Dracula's servants, then he'd lose plain and simple. Also, the OBPR stored his essence, it didn't remotely try to prevent the Roboticization. It would still affect Sonic since he has no way of using it after it's done to undo it.
You are using the argument "if someone has the power to control all animals, they can control humans too".Inverted Tempest said:Uh, the castle's effects aren't just limited to humans lol. It affects shit like owls, mollusks, and insects by corrupting them into something else and possessing them to make into Dracula's minions. Your point is completely irrelevant and based on the falsehood idea that it only affects humans. There's absolutely no reason why it wouldn't affect Sonic.