inFAMOUS Speed Revision

[Golden_Void]

Depends on the distance and how far they move.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

But isn't there an average speed of lightning used on this wiki? I know we use MHS for lightning feats, but what, if it's unclac'd is the average speed?

 

[Golden_Void]

Lightning itself has a value of 440000 m/s. As for the rest, I'm not sure what you're asking.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

There are verse on here who have characters who have dodged natural lightning. For whatever reason, the feat is not calculated, so it's just listed down as Massively Hypersonic, with no exact speed. Would we then, just mark them down at 440000 m/s?

 

[Antvasima]

440000 m/s means Massively Hypersonic+ if I remember correctly, but dodging from a few meters distance means Massively Hypersonic instead.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Well Kessler can dodge out of the way of the bolts when he little more than 1 meter away, would this warrant a MHS+ or MHS?

 

[Antvasima]

Probably MHS to be on the safe side.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Alrighty. Guess that will do until a calc is done.

 

[Golden_Void]

How far would Cole be away from him? The closer he is the more impressive it will be.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

I'd say Cole was about 2-3 feet away from Kessler. The bolt appeared to be close to him at 0:38, and Cole was like 2 feet away from him when he fired a bolt at him at 0:44

 

[Antvasima]

Maybe "At least Massively Hypersonic" then?

 

[Golden_Void]

Given those measurements, he would be 4 digits in burst speed if we used the projectile dodging formula. ):

 

[Antvasima]

That is true. Feel free to create a calculation blog for it if you wish.

 

[Golden_Void]

Only thing, some of Cole's bolts might me closer to lightning speed than others, like the magnum bolt for example.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

We have come to the conclusion that some of Cole's bolts (Lightning Bolt, Magnum Bolt, Precision Bolt) can be treated as real lightning because it meets the requirements and Cole has shown that he can absorb real lightning from a storm and shoot it back out.

 

[Lina_Shields]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Lina_Shields/Infamous_Calcs

Here are a couple of calcs. That explosion calc is disappointing, but it could just be game mechanics messing with the size scaling of things.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

What about the vaporization/melting of concrete? Would that at least change the AP of the blast?

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

And once again, thank you so much for all of your assistance with this thread.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Thank you for the help Lina.

 

[Lina_Shields]

@PTSOX: When I looked at the aftermath of that explosion, it seems that the chunks of the city were left over, such as bits and pieces of roads, bridges, structures.

• To apply for vaporization/melting of concrete, said explosion must literally make a smooth crater, with absolutely nothing left over.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

What about the crater that he woke up in? There were areas that were melted down to slag and or red hot and steaming/smoking.

Or maybe pulverization is a better term for what happened?

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Well, ignoring that for now, we got Mach 1191.3 inFAMOUS! MHS+ confirmed boi.

Looks like movement speed will remain as it is in the OP, with the exception of Kesssler, who is getting MHS+ movement speed. No one else really scales to him in terms of movement speed but reactions and combat speed will finally get a calc.

Thanks to everyone who has assisted in making this thread possible.

 

[Antvasima]

No problem.

 

[Lina_Shields]

What about the crater that he woke up in? There were areas that were melted down to slag and or red hot and steaming/smoking.
Or maybe pulverization is a better term for what happened?

This is not a justification for pulverization, as you can clearly see the remaining buildings and pieces of roads left over. If it was a pulverization feat, everything that you see in the background would be in tiny little pebbles.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Alrighty then. Guess we're good here then. The only thing that will change is the movement speed and combat/reaction speed.

The only people I'm not sure what to do with is Bertrand and John, because neither really bothered to dodge attacks and simply chose to tank/regent from attacks, so I'm note sure what to leave them at. Perhaps just unknown?

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

It's really just those two, everyone else I have a good idea of what to do with in terms of speed.

 

[Lina_Shields]

You can leave their speeds at Unknown, in this case since we don't have a clear indication of their speed.

 

[Golden_Void]

Thanks to everyone who has assisted in making this thread possible.

Lol come up to the stage and get your award.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Alright, so final speed tiers

Below Average Human:

Alden (without powers)

Subsonic+ Movement Speed:

Cole, Sasha, Kuo, Nix

Supersonic Movement Speed:

David

Massively Hypersonic+ Movement Speed:

Kessler, likely Future Beast (chased Kessler and his family for years)

Massively Hypersonic+ Combat and Reaction Speed:

Cole, Sasha, David, Kuo, Bloody Mary, Nix

Unknown:

Present Beast (no notable speed feats, though he did cross the Eastern Seaboard in a few days, and can teleport)

Bertrand (is a tank, though, could keep up with a speeding truck and helicopter, and could have blitz if Cole hadn't intervened)

Alden (with powers) (no notable speed feats, though he did get from his tower to a bridge in a short amount of time)

 

[Antvasima]

It is easier to evaluate your suggested speed tiers if you provide explanations next to them.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Below Average Human:

Alden (without powers) (needed a cane to walk, walked with a limp, took a long time to walk anywhere)

Subsonic+ Movement Speed:

Cole, Sasha, Kuo, Nix

(Scaling to Cole dodging a missile that resembles this one)

Supersonic Movement Speed:

Cole (with Induction Grind) (performed this feat) David (matched and blitzed Cole while he was using Induction Grind), Kuo (with Frost Dash) (can match Cole's Induction Grind), Bloody Mary (with Bat Swarm) (can match Cole's Induction Grind)

Massively Hypersonic+ Movement Speed:

Kessler (could casually step out of the way of lighting and outpace Cole), likely Future Beast (chased Kessler and his family for years)

Massively Hypersonic+ Combat and Reaction Speed:

Cole, Sasha, David, Kuo, Bloody Mary, Nix

(Via scaling to Cole, who could keep up with and react to Kessler in combat)

Unknown:

Present Beast (no notable speed feats, though he did cross the Eastern Seaboard in a few days, and can teleport)

Bertrand (is a tank, though, could keep up with a speeding truck and helicopter, and could have blitz if Cole hadn't intervened)

Alden (with powers) (no notable speed feats, though he did get from his tower to a distant bridge in a short amount of time, and casually lifted and threw a car faster than a cop could react)

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Actually, upon thing about it further, Alden should probably be either Subsonic+ or Supersonic with his power, since his telekinesis allows him to launch bits of metal at bullet like velocity, and should be able to apply such affects to himself.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I think that seems reasonable, with the exception that stepping out of the way of lightning counts as combat speed, whereas running faster than lightning counts as movement speed.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Should he just be left at Supersonic then? He was zipping around the Empire Crater, which takes up 5-6 city blocks, in seconds. Darkanine did a rough estimate and got a Supersonic calculation, and Kessler should scale to Cole while using Induction Grind.

 

[Antvasima]

That seems fine.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Alright, I'll leave Kessler's Movement Speed at Supersonic.

Would Subsonic+ work for Alden with powers for the metal feat and the cop feat? He should also scale to Cole.

Would leaving Bertrand and John at Superhuman work, on the account of their size (their massive stature allows them to make large strides, and Bertrand could keep up with speeding vehicles)?

It's either that or unknown.

I'll make the edits in a few days, cause I am currently traveling and don't have access to reliable internet.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Alright I'm back, so, are we good to make the revisions?

 

[Lina_Shields]

I am ready if you are ready, although would you be kind enough to wait a little while until the speed revisions have been tallied for all of the characters being revised?

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Sure, what else do we need?