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Immeasurable Speed Sonic, time to PERISH

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Gilad_Hyperstar said:
The feats are proven to be legit countless times before. If Super Sonic's AP is variable, then why can't his speed be variable too?
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Explain how it is legit when Sonic has perform Planet Feats with his Super Form after 2006 and I would suggest we should remove his AP as well because we can't accept Outliners on his Tiers, by that logic, you might as well have Spongebob at Planet cause his tiers are Galaxy even tho you guys think its an outliner
 
I will also want to suggest to remove Multi Solar System for the Super Forms and here is why

1. The user who did the calc states that it could be some outliner

2. The Super Forms never performed Multi Solar System feats unless someone can back that up on this cause if anything Large Planet-Dwarf Star is what the Chaos Emeralds hit (Universal is ehh IDK) But that Multi Solar System happened one time
 
MikeBro25 said:
I will also want to suggest to remove Multi Solar System for the Super Forms and here is why

1. The user who did the calc states that it could be some outliner

2. The Super Forms never performed Multi Solar System feats unless someone can back that up on this cause if anything Large Planet-Dwarf Star is what the Chaos Emeralds hit
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They should scale to 4-A, as Final Egg Blaster was empowered by the chaos emeralds.
 
Da_Lunge_Fish said:
They should scale to 4-A, as Final Egg Blaster was empowered by the chaos emeralds.
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Yeah but that can be seen as an outliner cause there are so many feats that shown Planetary after that game and that can be considered as an outliner unless there are 2 more Multi Solar System feats he has
 
MikeBro25 said:
Cause there are lots of feats that shown that the 7 Chaos Emeralds have done that grants Planet such as the Eclipse Cannon, the Unleashed thing that Eggman use that the Emeralds drain the planet which was calc at Large Planet and many planet feats
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It was never stated that it's even close to their maximum output. Also having lower feats doesn't discredit higher ones
 
Since when was this thread about Sonic's Tier? I thought we were discussing the Immeasurable key
 
Theuser789 said:
Before the FRA train of any side come in I want to say that this thread should be focused how the new standards affect the tiering, and what should be changed, it shouldn't be about "outliers" or "there is no feat" because this already accepted in the original thread by various staff members knowelegeble on the series, and it's honestly derrailing from the main point

Focus on arguments related to the standards, please
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Read this post again and stop derrailing about outliers people, this is about the standards
 
MikeBro25 said:
Yeah and that the Immeasurable Key should be removed cause its an outliner like Game Sonic has inconsisnant like Marvel/DC like I said
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Why exactly? Super Sonic doesn't state once he's using his full speed in any game before or after Sonic 2006. The only enemy to ever force Super Sonic to use his full power was Solaris, and in any other occasion he's holding back a lot. And aside from Solaris no enemy can even harm him at all
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Why exactly? Super Sonic doesn't state once he's using his full speed in any game before or after Sonic 2006. The only enemy to ever force Super Sonic to use his full power was Solaris, and in any other occasion he's holding back a lot. And aside from Solaris no enemy can even harm him at all
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If Super Sonic wanted to be at his full power, why did did he not hold back or fought hard enough to counter the Planetary drain by Eggman in Unleashed that drain the 7 Chaos Emeralds in the cutscene like his Low Multiverse power and durability and Speed should have resistant that ? Or one shot other Villains at that tier?

Like think about it
 
MikeBro25 said:
If Super Sonic wanted to be at his full power, why did did he not hold back or fought hard enough to counter the Planetary drain by Eggman in Unleashed that drain the 7 Chaos Emeralds?

Like think about it
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Because affecting and nullifying the chaos emerald would also nullify Super Sonic's power. This is explained in canon when Tikal managed to nullify Perfect Chaos and revert him back to base by using the Master Emeralds to depower the chaos emeralds.
 
It isn't, it is about the standards, saying "nah it isn't" isn't a goddamm poiny

Anyways it objectively isn't a outlier, that's not the meaning of the word, immesurable is the peak of Sonic's speed, the maximun, a peak is always going to be higher than the rest by definition, you are using outlier as a buzzword, and the Unleashed drain is irrelevant whhen Chaos also drained the emeralds and Sonic beat him, or in Unleashed where Sonic then beats Perfect Dark Gaia, who already far upscales from 5-A

4-A, MFTL+ is the definition of derrailing a thread, keep your pre conceived notions and bias to yourselfs
 
Theuser789 said:
It isn't, it is about the standards, saying "nah it isn't" isn't a goddamm poiny

Anyways it objectively isn't a outlier, that's not the meaning of the word, immesurable is the peak of Sonic's speed, the maximun, a peak is always going to be higher than the rest by definition, you are using outlier as a buzzword, and the Unleashed drain is irrelevant whhen Chaos also drained the emeralds and Sonic beat him, or in Unleashed where Sonic then beats Perfect Dark Gaia, who already far upscales from 5-A

4-A, MFTL+ is the definition of derrailing a thread, keep your pre conceived notions and bias to yourselfs
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The thread is about immeasurable in general, so try again. Outlier means a feat far above any other feats. The highest feat for Sonic calculated now (that also should be nuked soon) is billions c, immeasurable is, well, above infinite.
 
@MikeBro25

I would appreciate if you stop derailing the thread with outdated and irrelevant arguments this an immeasurable speed CRT not a super form CRT at this point you're just gas-lighting the original topic!

I was going to keep quiet but this entire CRT has been poorly mis-managed in it's entirely:

*Posted by an user that gave zero hint nor discussion to the supporters/opponents of the verse before posting such an important CRT

*Not a single neutral or supporting Staff member has given their input yet...

*Ofc the CRT derails to another subject...

I swear other verses don't get nowhere as much strife as the Sonic verse, it seems my appeals to keep your personal bias for/against the verse fell on deaf ears!
 
Da_Lunge_Fish said:
The thread is about immeasurable in general, so try again. Outlier means a feat far above any other feats. The highest feat for Sonic calculated now (that also should be nuked soon) is billions c, immeasurable is, well, above infinite.
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You could say that about many characters who also have supporting feats that are mftl+ in addition to immeasurable. Why are they legit and Sonic's isn't?
 
No it literally isn't, it's about the fact that the definition of immesurable changed, so every franchise is getting a revision to see if it still applies, no matter how much you repeat your lie, it's never going to be true. And so is "peak", again with your ad nauseum based on a incorrect premise and I literally have a blog with three calcs far faster than billions C

It's like people think their word alone is enough proof and don't try, it's very funny that this derrail happened after I made an entire post explaining immesurable,
 
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