I'll be sorry for this

[Kaltias]

According to Burning it's CQC range (I think).

Via type 8 immortality

 

[DragonEmperor23]

What's the type 8 based on?

 

[Schnee_One]

Look above

 

[Firephoenixearl]

CQC? What are we talking about, it's hard to keep up.

CAN WE ALL CALM DOWN AND MAKE AN AGREEMENT?!

This is getting chaotic so how about we finish jill vs sirzechs first (which shouldn't be that far off) and THEN we start with this?

 

[Schnee_One]

I mean this and Jill are both stomps so we can just conclude that and he done

 

[DragonEmperor23]

What is the rumour? Is it like an actual rumor and an idea? If it is then this needs to be closed because EE was the only way Sirzechs was going to win.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

What is the rumour? Is it like an actual rumor and an idea? If it is then this needs to be closed because EE was the only way Sirzechs was going to win.

EE is his main hit. She can still be killed, not forever doe. Incap will still work (killing her for eternity).

 

[Kaltias]

I'm sure that standing there for a day without moving after killing an opponent is 100% in character for Lucifer

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I'm sure that standing there for a day without moving after killing an opponent is 100% in character for Lucifer

Well, you know, he actually went to fight Trihexia (cus it would take an abnormal amount of time to fully kill trihexia since it kept regening) and guess for how long... a bare minimum of 10'000 years (idk why his stamina is stated just as "high" tbh, i mean if he's gonna fight for that long continuously it might aswell be endless unless it's haxxed to 0). So yeah a day or 2 untill he gains victory won't exactly be a big deal for him.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

She needs a day to come back? Isn't there like an hour time limit for Sirzechs to win by incap?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

She needs a day to come back? Isn't there like an hour time limit for Sirzechs to win by incap?

That too.

 

[Kaltias]

Yeah except that it's a totally different scenario.

He isn't fighting her eternally. He is killing her, then he has 0 reasons to stay there so he'll go somewhere else, then she comes back and haxes him

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yeah except that it's a totally different scenario.
He isn't fighting her eternally. He is killing her, then he has 0 reasons to stay there so he'll go somewhere else, then she comes back and haxes him

knocking the opponent out for at least one hour

From SBA death would count as K.O. And again he is challenged to a fight as a devil he has millenias to spare. Staying for an hour or 2 is pretty ok for him (he actually stayed in that same place after killing asmodeus but ok). Also don't forget that putting the place in a ball of PoD or throwing her into the dimensional gap (which has similar effects to PoD) will do the same job.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

its a day for incap so if she takes a day to come back then Sirzechs wins

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Also devils have passive mind reading. So he will know about her being able to come back to life and he can therefore do 1 of the 3 options i mentioned above.

 

[Kaltias]

>Death counts as K.O.

No.

Again, it works in close quarters, so it's not a matter of not going somewhere else, but a matter of not moving at all.

And you are completely ignoring that he either gets reality warped or mind haxed at the start, so she wins because she survives his opening move, while he doesn't

 

[Firephoenixearl]

You missed the point.

Once she dies once, it's over. She ain't coming back. Sirzechs will know about her coming back to life via passive mind read. So once he does something it's over.

The bombing will end her because before being able to regen she will be in the loop of some sort (either via PoD or passive aura) causing incap.

 

[Kaltias]

Also devils have passive mind reading. So he will know about her being able to come back to life and he can therefore do 1 of the 3 options i mentioned above.

She resists mind hax and fellow telepaths can read her mind only if she wants to

 

[DragonEmperor23]

whats her reality warping and mind hax?

 

[Kaltias]

Her mind hax is a bunch of things but the most important one is mind control.

Her reality warping is having full control of everything within her labyrinth, possessing objects, tearing apart people, stuff like that

 

[DragonEmperor23]

so which one and what application of it would she start with?

 

[Kaltias]

Probably mind hax

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Is it passive? What does she do with the mind hax?

 

[Kaltias]

No it's thought based.

Makes him her puppet, force him to stab himself, make him stand still while she kills him, stuff like that

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Then wouldn't She get EE'd before she uses it? Passive > Thought based.

 

[RKGenki]

1 - Type 8 brings her back

2 - Proofs that he erases everything in a radius of 4 Km with his passive erasure?

 

[Kaltias]

No because she starts outside of the passive stuff via 4 km starting range.

The battle starts with both haxing the other, but only one of them having the necessary survivability.

Honestly it's unfair for Lucifer

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I thought type 8 took her a day to come back which would render this a victory for Sirzechs via incap.

 

[Kaltias]

Nah resurrection is fast

 

[DragonEmperor23]

then isn't it a stomp since that was the only way he could have won

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes

 

[The_Causality]

I hate when a match have a good debate but end in a stomp

 

[DragonEmperor23]

ggwp