Ikki Kurogane vs Copy Robot

[The_Smashor]

I just made a new version of Ditto profile, so I decided I want to try it out on the infuriatingly skilled boi.

Rules: Copy Robot has already copied Ikki. Otherwise SBA.


In order for a mediocre man to defeat a genius, he has to become a demon.


Just a little unfair to be skilled to the extent of having supernatural powers, don'tcha think? Though I guess being a copy of you would make be the biggest cheat of them all, right?!

Ikki Kurogane:
Copy Robot:

Inconclusive:

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Ikki destroys lol. For several reasons. He beat 5 copies of himself xD.

 

[00potato]

Does copy robot copy skills or just abilities

 

[Ionliosite]

Ikki has already defeated clones of himself, this is nothing new.

 

[The_Smashor]

Were those clones just as skilled as he was and were they perfect copies?

 

[Ionliosite]

He defeated 5 copies of himself that had the same physical traits, mana and abilities as him.

 

[The_Smashor]

But did they have his skill?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yes. The only thing that differed was their thought process.

So in this case Ikki wins, cus Ikki already knows his weaknesses, while the robot doesn't.

Though there are many more things to keep in mind.

1. Pretty sure Copy Robot cannot copy "existance". Ikki is a Blazer, which gives him stuff like resistance to physical damage and shit.

2. With desperado Ikki counted in, Ikki still has a massive advantage, as im pretty sure the robot cannot copy "being above causality and fate".

 

[The_Smashor]

I see.

Well, let's try something else.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

And the best part is. All of Ikki's clones (the 4 he fought at the same time) were 48x all his stats (strength, speed, durability etc).

 

[The_Smashor]

That literally makes no sense

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

That literally makes no sense

Protagonism

 

[The_Smashor]

I can't beleive I found an anime feat more BS then Joseph beating Ultimate Kars.

 

[Huesito88]

Pis

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I can't beleive I found an anime feat more BS then Joseph beating Ultimate Kars.

I mean, Ikki beating Amane Shinomiya is even more BS. But yeah, when Ikki's new profile is up this week, you'll see true stupidity.

 

[Huesito88]

Not really with such a advantage aka 48 times ap and speed advantage you oneshot and blitz no questions asked unless some really good passive hax prevents such actions to occur. This is basically just Cap using skill to beat someone who's MFTL+ with Solar System ap and that being the explanation the comic seriously gives.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

The skill was the same too (otherwise they wouldn't be able to use ittou shura in the first place). The thought process wasn't. So ikki knew his weaknesses and could abuse them.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Wait, the clones were 48x times stronger than him?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Wait, the clones were 48x times stronger than him?

To put it simply. He fought 4 exact clones of his. The clones were using Ittou Shura, Ikki wasn't.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Does someone even manages to defeat this guy in the series?

 

[Rocker1189]

There are times where you stop being impressed at a characters skill and are instead impressed at their plot armour :/

 

[InfiniteSped]

Skill in fiction is just plot armor, like IQ

 

[Rocker1189]

Yeah but most of the time it is believable within the verse. This one is just like lulwut?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Does someone even manages to defeat this guy in the series?

He has only lost once against Edelweiss (the god tier of the verse) iirc, but then in their 2nd encounter, he stalemates her. So while technically he can lose, it's just really unlikely, cus "lol skill".

@Rocker

It's not plot armor. That's just him being that stupidly good. It was like "they don't have the same thought process so i can just abuse the weaknesses and gg". I mean we are talking about a guy who was talking about "predicting everything about an opponent including their thoughts and position (the opponent couldn't be sensed by all other senses), to the point where the prediction cannot be fooled because he in a sense stole his identity" and then said "i can do it, it's not that hard". Ofc it's not amirite?

 

[The_Smashor]

@Fire

And he's stupidly good because of plot armor

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Just add Plot Manip to his profile already

 

[Firephoenixearl]

@Fire
And he's stupidly good because of plot armor

That's stupid. Why is skill called plot armor? It's not like he's getting stupid wins like "his opponent missed" or "his opponent wasn't bloodlusted" or "he lived cus he's the MC". He literally just has enough skill to pull through most things in the verse that are not called Edelweiss.

 

[Huesito88]

He still gets blitzed and one shot doesn't matter that he knows a weakness unless they're only 48 times stronger for 1 second.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

He still gets blitzed and one shot doesn't matter that he knows a weakness unless they're only 48 times stronger for 1 second.

Well he can still percieve them and he cut down 2 as soon as they came out, then he cut the other "off pannel" in a sense. I don't remember the 4th. Also ikki also 1 shots, dura neg with swords m8.

The clones cannot abuse his weakness, Ikki can. And for ikki it was stated to be all he needed to win.

 

[The_Smashor]

You need to be more like the JJBA fanbase. We know damn well that half of our protagonist's wins in the story are from PIS.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

What? You don't get the point. It's not that i can't admit when PiS is a thing Medaka cough cough. Ikki's skill just isn't one of those cases, literally everything he does has an in depth explanation given right after. After revisions ikki will have a feats section on his profile, so you can read to your hearts content.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

After revisions ikki will have a feats section on his profile, so you can read to your hearts content.

Im not mentally prepared for this...

 

[Firephoenixearl]

After revisions ikki will have a feats section on his profile, so you can read to your hearts content.

Im not mentally prepared for this...

Boi, if you're not mentally prepared what about me who has to add all the feats?

 

[Ionliosite]

Ikki is still protected by plot via being the MC

 

[Huesito88]

He still gets blitzed and one shot doesn't matter that he knows a weakness unless they're only 48 times stronger for 1 second.

Well he can still percieve them and he cut down 2 as soon as they came out, then he cut the other "off pannel" in a sense. I don't remember the 4th. Also ikki also 1 shots, dura neg with swords m8.
The clones cannot abuse his weakness, Ikki can. And for ikki it was stated to be all he needed to win.

If he can perceive them than they aren't 48 times faster overall than him.

 

[Ionliosite]

No, they are.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

No, they are.

^^

Also not "48x faster", "at least 48x all stats".

 

[The_Smashor]

So 48x stronger, faster, more durable, etc...

 

[Ionliosite]

Yes

 

[The_Smashor]

Yeah I fail to see how this isn't PIS, unless this weakness is stupidly crippling and something Ikki can use passively.