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IG Thanos - High Multiversal
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I'm talking specifically about the era when it wasn't retconned so heavily to make a point it had a higher range pre-retcon then it did post-retcon. I'm not saying the current IG has this range basically.
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Like I said before, I firmly believe cluttering the entire profile with separate keys just for the sake of a range change is a bad move. Any change should just be within the range section. It is much more streamlined that way.
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Powerscaling doesn't work with range, not just with this scenario but in most scenarios.
To address each scan:
@Emperor
Powerscaling doesn't work with range, not just with this scenario but in most scenarios.
To address each scan:
- Destroying all/multiple universes can be done with energy waves and doesn't prove all the abilities are active across the multiverse.
- That's a manifestation of Eternity, and Adam never got a chance to actually see if they would work iirc
- When Magus started using the IG the universes were already partially merged by the Cubes. That means his range wasn't reaching over into a completely separate universe.
- The statement with Thanos just means he's the most powerful being in the multiverse and means nothing about range specifically. It's also standard hyperbolic bragging.
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'When Magus started using the IG the universes were already partially merged by the Cubes. That means his range wasn't reaching over into a completely separate universe.'PrinceOfTheMorning said:
I kind of imagine it being something like a black hole. Once within the reach of the IG... there was nothing to stop it from pulling the two verses together.
Or am I the only that thinks that?
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Agreed
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The IG is superior to the Cosmic Cube in all aspects which is why the powerscaling works this way. Which is also the reason why Magus would wanted it over the CCs.
The universes weren't destroyed with energy waves like in the Thanos example so no it shows other methods are avaliable to range across multiple universes.
Notice how she stated "control of all there is" and then goes on to talk about all realities. That isn't possible with only energy waves.
It's still outside Eternity who embodies the universe. I'm pretty sure that's the "Realm of Manifestation". Which may still be within Multi-Eternity but not his aspect which is the point. Adam did use it and one-sided stomped the abstracts including Eternity in that realm. So "ineffective outside the universe" means nothing for Pre-Retcon IG. In the fight TLT says they may even endanger the realm their in which is larger than Eternity.
The universes weren't destroyed with energy waves like in the Thanos example so no it shows other methods are avaliable to range across multiple universes.
Notice how she stated "control of all there is" and then goes on to talk about all realities. That isn't possible with only energy waves.
It's still outside Eternity who embodies the universe. I'm pretty sure that's the "Realm of Manifestation". Which may still be within Multi-Eternity but not his aspect which is the point. Adam did use it and one-sided stomped the abstracts including Eternity in that realm. So "ineffective outside the universe" means nothing for Pre-Retcon IG. In the fight TLT says they may even endanger the realm their in which is larger than Eternity.
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Also I personally disagree with the "Thanos was exaggerating" but I'll drop that because we won't agree on it.
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There should be a Pre and Post Retcon key because of how the tier keeps changing. Pre Retcon it stomps the abstracts. Post Retcon it's being fought against by Celestials. Not sure how it clutters the page it'd only make things more clear.
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The IG was going to get a variable tier. Iirc Eficiente was going to do something regarding that. The alternative would be significantly more than two keys based on all the different power levels it's displayed, which would be far too cluttering.
- Power has nothing to do with range. The IG can be capable of overcoming a Cube's power and at the same time incapable of affecting things as widespread as it.
- It stated the universes were destroyed by a "wave of creative energy". That's...very explicitly an energy wave. Furthermore Nemesis is explicitly greater than just the six gems.
- She also explicitly said "in your universe" right before saying "control of all that is." The only explicitly 2-A statement in that scan is a claim of possible destruction. The other part is left ambiguous and needs a massively highballed interpretation.
- He's referring to the universe when he says "this reality". That realm is a higher dimension that's appeared multiple times in Starlin material, where M-bodies interact. There's a difference between the actual abstracts and M-bodies.
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Damn that's a real shame. Is there anyone else that might be able to help in place of Morning, Ant?
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range=/=power
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I can see the validation of the Infinity Gauntlet being 2-A, easily.
Where's the validation for High 2-A?
Where's the validation for High 2-A?
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That is so wrong I have no words for it. In what world does Range = Power?Slenderblak said:
Apologies I'm just getting irritated with some of the people who are fanboys of the Marvel-Thanos.
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I mean I can run two-miles, which is my range. That doesn't mean that I can destroy 2 miles of side-walk.
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Well it never hurts to try Ant lol.
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You seriously need to calm your tone down. Having a noticeably biased tone will result in less people willing to support you, whether you're correct or incorrect.NostalgiaTrip said:
Anyways, =/= means "not equal to".
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Also, this is not range. Some sort of supersniper would have 2 mile range. Range is merely the distance one can attack, not what one could walk, else the idea of "melee" range becomes null.NostalgiaTrip said:
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The infinity gautlet has defeated 2-A beings consistantly. Reguardless of range, that's 2-A. Saying otherwise is are of effect fallacy. The main reason Thanos has lost with the gauntlet is him feeling as though he dosn't deserver the power and, of course, classic comic book PIS.
High 2-A is because the stones exist beyond time and space or something like that.
High 2-A is because the stones exist beyond time and space or something like that.
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I'm not trying to seem like a dick, I swear.DeathstroketheHedgehog said:
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That's exactly my problem. Is that really the only reason he's High 2-A? That's a bit in the speculation department, no?The Smashor said:
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Do we want to put this on hold until someone can help put this discussion to rest?
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Ok then, go ahead. It's obvious that nothing is going to change for the time being unless the current authors clarify the limitations and all that.Antvasima said:
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