I want to propose a new system for improving dimensionality.

[Lemanlayt]

Hello. My friend and I noticed that no one was involved in the Anos Voldigord profile, and there was a level that even ordinary residents of the deep-sea world surpassed in the outer arc. In this regard, we decided to adjust the level to a more accurate one. We prepared various scans and proofs beforehand, but at some point we encountered a small problem - no dimensional equivalents or similar concepts were taken into account in this wiki. Consider the same difference between "reality" and "fiction". After all, it is not a classic dimension with an infinite number of worlds on an additional axis, but rather a conceptual and information density. Based on this, I would like to add something else (after all, the density is not just informational and conceptual, and the differences are not always the same as the difference between reality and fiction).

Our idea is based on innumerable infinities and their manifestations in various forms in the form of specific differences. Simply put, the difference between objects with different dimensions can be expressed as an innumerable infinite number (aleph-one) due to the fact that the infinite number of worlds on the additional coordinate axis is itself an actual infinity (which, in fact, is no different from the innumerable infinity in our understanding. the specific context).

At the same time, based on the continuum hypothesis, as well as the concept of a continuum in sets, we can conclude that a full-fledged and infinite continuum is, similarly, the most striking example of this uncountably infinite set. Of course, this does not mean that any difference in the infinite continuum can be immediately equated to fact that it is equivalent to dimensional differences. However, I think it is worth considering such a possibility. After all, it turns out that the differences between objects of different dimensions and the differences I described earlier may well be similar in magnitude.

What am I getting at? There are several similar differences in the anime with Anos: when a part of matter is denser or stronger than the entire space-time continuum. For example, a ship is denser than infinite space, or a bubble-like world is denser and more durable than shallow water. Here we are dealing with a difference in physical density, not with fiction, information, or concepts. This is a literal physical density that depends on the concept of density of worlds. The more fiery dew there is, the denser and stronger the worlds become, and the stronger their laws and concepts. That's why I suggest considering this way of distributing power levels.

 

[Reiner04]

This seems clear tier 0 to me.

 

[ROZAN-U]

This seems clear tier 0 to me.

seems like severe downplay to me
he is above tiering system at least

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

You'd have to make it Objectively sound and logical though with proper reasoning between each threshold on which counts as high enough to be considered an equivalent to higher-dimension or not while also factoring the fact that the denser the object the higher its gravitational pull
thus if one can be denser than an infinite universe while just being a normal size ship galleon. the Gravity being applicable across all possible axis would also apply stronger in it

 

[Reiner04]

You'd have to make it Objectively sound and logical though with proper reasoning between each threshold on which counts as high enough to be considered an equivalent to higher-dimension or not while also factoring the fact that the denser the object the higher its gravitational pull
thus if one can be denser than an infinite universe while just being a normal size ship galleon. the Gravity being applicable across all possible axis would also apply stronger in it

Wank

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Wank

Jargon war

 

[Lemanlayt]

You'd have to make it Objectively sound and logical though with proper reasoning between each threshold on which counts as high enough to be considered an equivalent to higher-dimension or not while also factoring the fact that the denser the object the higher its gravitational pull
thus if one can be denser than an infinite universe while just being a normal size ship galleon. the Gravity being applicable across all possible axis would also apply stronger in it

Well, even excluding the fact that the Verse operates and functions under its own metaphysical laws, and the integrity of the world depends on its own order—making Einstein's theory of relativity or Newton's laws of gravitation hardly applicable (which is one of the reasons why I suggested introducing not classical dimensions but only their equivalents, though not the only reason)—this point can still be explained.

Here, an object with higher density does not exist inside an object of lesser density. And when entering bubble or shallow worlds (weaker ones), they consciously reduce their density, and along with it, everything else diminishes—strength, speed, durability, density, etc. Take Equius, for example: while he was holding back, he was pierced and burned by a single Egil from Anos, but afterward, he casually tanked attacks from within the very foundation of such a world after unleashing his true power (and in general, attacks capable of destroying an ordinary world).

If they were to enter this world without restraint, the world—along with its laws— they will be destroyed, annihilated, along with its entire world order (all its concepts). Meanwhile, most of the time, these higher-density worlds exist/float within the ocean,just like lower-density worlds, still remaining part of it. The ocean itself, however, is already larger than any of these worlds of varying density, of which there are an infinite number.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Well, that's a problem if we are scaling based purely on the mechanics of the verse rather than being at least grounded in some realism.

You will have to properly establish an objective Axiom of logic for everything that exists and a logical reasoning as to why that is the case and why that interpretation is what holds over the pre-established metaphysical philosophy and knowledge we have.

Besides most fiction is often derived from an already developed philosophical branch of knowledge where it is grounded through Science, Belief, Origin, and such.
It would be much more preferred to follow whichever knowledge in philosophy or theology they take inspiration from rather than inventing a whole new thing for the sake of a singular verse which the Question would then follow.

If this particular Verse is allowed. Then why aren't the others?

Until you can feasibly answer these possible questions. Establishing this is almost improbably and unlikely to happen in the first place

 

[Lemanlayt]

Well, what else is there to explain? The laws of the Verse are upheld by Orders and concepts, which, in turn, are sustained by the gods.

Yes, there is time, which is inextricably linked to space (since actions in space can be described by some moment in time), but nothing more. For example, the theory of relativity is otherwise pretty much disproven there—given that the Verse has infinite speed (possessed by many characters), as well as speeds that surpass any conceptual notion of velocity. But those are just minor details. There’s even an Order of Light—a god whose speed equals or even exceeds the speed of light.

I can even quote the author from one of his afterwords:

'The "Orders" mentioned in the story serve as a kind of physics-like law, and I thought it would be more interesting if, in a fantasy world, they were presented differently than in reality.

In the real world, the laws of physics exist as something self-evident, but I believe that in fantasy, they can be given justification or made to feel natural within the narrative. In theory, the existence of gravity shouldn’t inherently matter, but what if, say, gravity was created from the very beginning by a god who shaped the world to keep people bound to it? Personally, I find such settings deeply fantastical and incredibly compelling.'

So here, he outright states that there are physics laws—just their own, even if they resemble ours. After all, these are Orders. And as for density, I’ve already explained—worlds float in an ocean far vaster than any single world within it, regardless of their density.

 

[ROZAN-U]

not a good wank

 

[Lemanlayt]

not a good wank

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