RandomGuy2345
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Say an abnormally strong human punched a normal human right across the jaw, killing the person in one punch. How strong would you have to be (in terms of AP)?
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How strong would a human have to be to kill another human with one punch?
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speedster352
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Anything above building level should be able to do the trick
RandomGuy2345
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Really?
I'd assume it'd be around Wall level, as many animals can kill humans and other animals with one bite to the neck or head.
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Anything above street level is overkill.
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That's a pretty big overkill lol, even normal human punchs can kill you if they land at the right place and such, not totally instantly but close.
Street level is the level of one shotting others, usually this refers to knocking them out but the same strike at the right place should be able to kill them.
Wall level punchs would litwrally go through your head, small building would probably reduce your entire body into paste as a side effect
Street level is the level of one shotting others, usually this refers to knocking them out but the same strike at the right place should be able to kill them.
Wall level punchs would litwrally go through your head, small building would probably reduce your entire body into paste as a side effect
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@speedster352 misunderstood the question, that's too much.
speedster352
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Yeah sorry about that
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This.
RandomGuy2345
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I'm going to elaborate a bit more.
Me, along with others are planning to do some WWE profiles.
The power of Sheamus' Brogue Kick was shown to be 1322 pounds per square inch. In comparison, a Gorilla's bite force is around 1300 pounds per square inch.
The power of Big Show's KO punch was 1809 pounds per square inch. In comparison, a Hippopotamus' bite force is around force is around 1820 pounds per square inch.
Both Sheamus and Big Show were able to kick out of each others finisher.
Sheamus also took another KO punch in the same match. It took Sheamus a little over 2 minutes to recover.
Since Big Show's punch force is 1809 pounds per square inch, 2 KO punches is equivalent to 3618 pounds per square inch. To compare, Saltwater Crocodiles have a bite force 3700 PSI.
How powerful would this make them?
Me, along with others are planning to do some WWE profiles.
The power of Sheamus' Brogue Kick was shown to be 1322 pounds per square inch. In comparison, a Gorilla's bite force is around 1300 pounds per square inch.
The power of Big Show's KO punch was 1809 pounds per square inch. In comparison, a Hippopotamus' bite force is around force is around 1820 pounds per square inch.
Both Sheamus and Big Show were able to kick out of each others finisher.
Sheamus also took another KO punch in the same match. It took Sheamus a little over 2 minutes to recover.
Since Big Show's punch force is 1809 pounds per square inch, 2 KO punches is equivalent to 3618 pounds per square inch. To compare, Saltwater Crocodiles have a bite force 3700 PSI.
How powerful would this make them?
RandomGuy2345
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RandomGuy2345
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Anyone?
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You asking the wrong guy...
Damn so I'm just gonna get ghost like this
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Assuming the average human is 40 joules which is baseline Human level, the one shot gap is around 7.5x, so this means it would take 300 joules (baseline Street level) to one shot a human.
RandomGuy2345
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I'm asking anybody who's knowledgeable enough lol
RandomGuy2345
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What's your opinion on this?
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This gap is only for the purposes of matches, and has no bearing in real life.
As for how powerful a hit needs to be to kill a human, I believe it depends of how much G a human can stand (in a rnage), and then multiply it by by the mass of that person iirc.
RandomGuy2345
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Is there a way to calculate it into AP?
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Well, I think you'd need to convert the PSI value into joules, and then compare it to the values on the AP chart.
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Tho baseline 9-C would still be the assumed tier for the feat since 9-C's being able to one-shot humans is what the gap is based off of
RandomGuy2345
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Well, 3618 PSI is equivalent to 706370.30613 joules. So pretty good into Wall Level.
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We can't convert psi to joules; if any, we can translate the overpressure of an explosion as amount of energy, but that's it.
RandomGuy2345
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So what would we do then?
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With our current system? Not much. What you can do, is look for the records of what are the most powerful impacts that failed to kill a human.
RandomGuy2345
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The strongest punch ever was from Francis Ngannou at 129,161 units, which is like getting hit by a Ford Escort at full speed, as well as more powerful than a 12 pound sledgehammer from full force over head.
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Units of what?
RandomGuy2345
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Just units.
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So I believe is just sports hype and it does not really means anything.
RandomGuy2345
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i thought one shotting a human was an automatic street level feat.
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Top comment mocks this and someone says a 80 units = 1 pound, putting it at 1700 pouds
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I believe the numbers used in that statement were bs, BUT make no mistake, Francis Ngannou is perfectly capable of shutting just about anybody's lights out.
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Using our one-shot scaling won't work here (the 7.5 is something we made). Like it was said above a punch well connected to different parts of the body (head, neck, heart) can kill with just one hit.
Then it also depends on the body of each person and of course of the attacker and the victim. A big guy of course would have more mass and thus more impact, a trained person could also exert more force, someone that may not have the largest body but can hit fast enough would also get a higher result cause of the kinetic energy.
Then it also depends on the body of each person and of course of the attacker and the victim. A big guy of course would have more mass and thus more impact, a trained person could also exert more force, someone that may not have the largest body but can hit fast enough would also get a higher result cause of the kinetic energy.
RandomGuy2345
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So referring to this again, would this make them 9-B without any specific AP value?
Also, can newtons be converted to AP?
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By the looks of it this would just make them 9-B with scaling to Gorillas and Hippos as mentioned above
sadly not
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If you can find out the distance the newtons travelled, yeah.
If there's no distance tho, tough luck.
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