How strong is non-canon Naruto verse?

[Fastestthingalive50]

Or hey, since it has actual timeline creation, maybe its better than the real thing!

Too late, 2-C Madara here we come.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Tier 4 via novels which are actually canon but VS wiki doesn't like them
Tier 3-A/Low 2-C via storm games
Tier low 1-C jump force

Can you please elaborate which feats are

Tier 4 in the novels

Tier 3-A/Low 2-C storm games

Tier low 1-C jump force

 

[Bernkastelll]

Tier 4 in the novels

Momoshiki dimension that has a starry sky

Tier 3-A/Low 2-C storm games

kaguya dimensions are universes in storm games

Tier low 1-C jump force

Scaling to characters like Prometheus who is in the Real World that see the Jump Force verses as a legit fiction

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Can you please elaborate which feats are

Tier 4 in the novels

Tier 3-A/Low 2-C storm games

Tier low 1-C jump force

In the novels, the Momoshiki dimension stuff, and his feat of making a supernova iirc. They ARE canon, they are included in the novel timelines, but whatever. Storm, I am not sure, maybe the stuff with all the stars in Kaguya's dimensions...? Jump Force, that is hard to explain.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

KKKKKKKKKK, gogeta the destroyer é uma perola KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Q porre, todo mundo conhece o puto

 

[Bernkastelll]

Also, yeah, the novels are canon, but the wiki doesnt accept it because yes

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Momoshiki dimension that has a starry sky

kaguya dimensions are universes in storm games

Scaling to characters like Prometheus who is in the Real World that see the Jump Force verses as a legit fiction

Thanks

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Tier -1B in fanfic

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Also, yeah, the novels are canon, but the wiki doesnt accept it because yes

And these are just some of them.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Also, yeah, the novels are canon, but the wiki doesnt accept it because yes

Vswiki downplay

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

This reminds me of a few things

Lowkey would love to watch that latter video but I don’t know a word of Portuguese oh well

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Momoshiki dimension that has a starry sky

kaguya dimensions are universes in storm games

Scaling to characters like Prometheus who is in the Real World that see the Jump Force verses as a legit fiction

Momoshiki dimension isn’t all btw
He has a 4-B+ novel Calc as well

 

[Nullflowerblush]

They ARE canon, they are included in the novel timelines, but whatever.

There are four versions of the same. damn. events; the movie, the novelization, the anime, and the manga, because we just couldn't get enough of Momoshiki, eh? However, only the anime and the manga are considered to be the canon iterations because why would the outdated movie and its novelization be considered canon anymore? I figured this would have been discussed earlier.

Scaling to characters like Prometheus who is in the Real World that see the Jump Force verses as a legit fiction

cough cough, crossover rules
A nasty cough.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

There are four versions of the same. damn. events; the movie, the novelization, the anime, and the manga, because we just couldn't get enough of Momoshiki, eh? However, only the anime and the manga are considered to be the canon iterations because why would the outdated movie and its novelization be considered canon anymore? I figured this would have been discussed earlier.


cough cough, crossover rules
A nasty cough.

Crossover rules really do sting sometimes

 

[Bernkastelll]

cough cough, crossover rules
A nasty cough.

how does the crossover rules affect this?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Lowkey would love to watch that latter video but I don’t know a word of Portuguese oh well

Actually, it's very lucky that you can't watch the video

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Actually, it's very lucky that you can't watch the video

Is it that bad?
Lmfao

 

[Bernkastelll]

Is it that bad?
Lmfao

Yes, its really bad

Ajimu scaling + Real World = gg, thats the main argument

 

[Livinmeme]

Wait can we just make a diferent key of the novels of naruto or 4-B naruto would be a little to much for the wiki?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Wait can we just make a diferent key of the novels of naruto or 4-B naruto would be a little to much for the wiki?

No, they literally made a rule to not make upgrades due Momoshiki dimensions.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Wait can we just make a diferent key of the novels of naruto or 4-B naruto would be a little to much for the wiki?

Yes to the latter. I do not know why.

 

[Livinmeme]

Yes to the latter. I do not know why.

the definitve prove that the wiki is the best vs board and is not biased or anything...probally

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Wait can we just make a diferent key of the novels of naruto or 4-B naruto would be a little to much for the wiki?

No not enough differences between that Naruto and a 4-B Naruto verse aside from raw stats
It’s the same reason Saitama doesn’t have a 5-B anime tab

 

[Bernkastelll]

No not enough differences between that Naruto and a 4-B Naruto verse aside from raw stats

but we are accepting novel things to narutoverse lol, they are doing it to scale their speed in some CRT, so, everything can be accepted in the novels, except tiers

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

but we are accepting novel things to narutoverse lol, they are doing it to scale their speed in some CRT, so, everything can be accepted in the novels, except tiers

Another novel cannonicity Crt when

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Another novel cannonicity Crt when

It never ended.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

but we are accepting novel things to narutoverse lol, they are doing it to scale their speed in some CRT, so, everything can be accepted in the novels, except tiers

That's because Naruto Retsuden is canon.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

It never ended.

Oh...

 

[Bernkastelll]

That's because Naruto Retsuden is canon.

yes, but why would the novelization of boruto new generations movie not be canon?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

how does the crossover rules affect this?

Non-canon crossovers do not officially take place within any of the involved continuities. Examples may include Marvel Vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe, or the Dragon Ball/One Piece/Toriko special episode. Given the multiple inconsistencies and lack of canonicity to their original source materials, using these crossovers to scale to canon or canon feats to scale to non-canon original characters is forbidden. Exceptions are that original characters may scale to their own feats or feats seen in the crossover. For example, Dark Kahn has a legitimate 2-C feat, but it does not scale to anyone but him.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

yes, but why would the novelization of boruto new generations movie not be canon?

I feel as though I literally explained why no less than an hour ago.
The Boruto: Naruto the Movie novel is not canon because Boruto: Naruto the Movie is no longer canon, because Boruto: Next Generations retconned it.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Yeah that doesnt affect jumpforce after all, they are seeing stuff as fiction

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

We also see some manga panels showing moments from the series.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Do we see a Medaka Box by any chance?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Do we see a Medaka Box by any chance?

wdym?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Ajimu scaling + Real World = gg, thats the main argument

Since Medaka Box is never shown in Jump Force or even referenced, crossover rules nullify this argument.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Since Medaka Box is never shown in Jump Force or even referenced, crossover rules nullify this argument.

but my ''seeing as fiction'' wasnt even about Medaka Box, why are u talking about it?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

The "seeing as fiction" thing doesn't mean much. As best, you could get Tier 2 since VSBW doesn't allow for higher dimensional tiering based on "transcendent" or "beyond [blah blah]" statements without proof that they are actually a dimension above them and infinitely superior.

 

[Livinmeme]

The "seeing as fiction" thing doesn't mean much. As best, you could get Tier 2 since VSBW doesn't allow for higher dimensional tiering based on "transcendent" or "beyond [blah blah]" statements without proof that they are actually a dimension above them and infinitely superior.

seing as fiction is valid

 

[Bernkastelll]

The "seeing as fiction" thing doesn't mean much. As best, you could get Tier 2 since VSBW doesn't allow for higher dimensional tiering based on "transcendent" or "beyond [blah blah]" statements without proof that they are actually a dimension above them and infinitely superior.

Seeing a fiction means much, its literally in the Tiering System FAQ
''They can qualify, however, if said "higher plane" is defined as having a relationship of qualitative superiority over lower realms in one way or another, such as by perceiving them as literal fiction/unreality (or being comparatively more "real" in nature), encompassing them in an infinitesimal portion of itself, residing in a higher state of being altogether, and etc.''