How are Yaldabaoth and Joker 3-C?

[LokiMasterrace]

If it's because of Corporob MDL-ED Big Bang or sealing Igor then it's just plain stupid. If any of his his moves destroy galaxies then the ship should be destroyed too, but its not. This proves galaxy exploding is but a mere illusion.Igor didnt have any combat feat whatsoever just because he is created by Philemon doesnt mean he is a powerful fighter.

Going by feats canonically strongest attendant is Margaret, Elizabeth very close second, next is Theo (no backup on this one but he takes Liz role in P3p if you are female so...), and Lavenza is the weakest hence why Yaldy could break into the room and sealed Igor.

P3MC vs P4MC vs P5 MC:


Also you can solo any boss but canonically Joker beat Lavenza with the help of his teammates, same with Yu in the fight with Margaret. P3MC soloed Elizabeth alone.

The Universe Arcana > The world Arcana. Yes they are NOT the same. Igor said himself that he never dreamed of seeing that card (universe) despite P2 also had The World. P3MC>P5,P4 '

'Nyx vs Yaldy:

Origin: Nyx is an alien existed very long time before human and the mother of shadows. She is the reason people have shadow in the first place.

The waves of Nyx's psyche, which spread across the planet, stood in harsh contradiction with the life already existing on it and threatened to eliminate said life entirely. Of course, the still very primitive, survival-instinct driven lifeforms of earth made attempts to resist these 'Waves of Death'. As a result of this, the lifeforms of earth entered a period of explosive evolution, and developed coping-strategies to resist Nyx, weapons against her. The crown of this development was a plane of shared information between all living beings on earth, the so-called "Collective Unconscious".

- From P3 guidebook by Atlus.

http://ask-persona.tumblr.com/post/99861586798/persona-3-club-book-world-guide-qa-Translation

The Guide book also makes a quick mention of The Great Will (a recurring power of the main series), stating that Gods and Demons emerge from humans as another mean to defend their psyche from Nyx. Yaldy in fact is a "son" of her because he was born from Collective unconscious of humanity. He is not a actual god but a very powerful Shadow.

Feats: Nyx is Death. It's not a shadow shaped by human will like Yaldy or Izanami but more like a Force of Nature. It cannot be killed by any mean. The final battle it's attack called Death deals 9999 damage, none of Yaldy attacks are instant kill. Nyx threatened entire world compare to Yaldy Tokyo.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Can you like, make paragraphs?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

"If it's because of Corporob MDL-ED Big Bang or sealing Igor then it's just plain stupid. If any of his his moves destroy galaxies then the ship should be destroyed too, but its not. "

The same can be said for literally every attack animation. Have you even read our discussion on this here? Even then, Okumura has a solid 4-A feat due to his palace as a whole.

"This proves galaxy exploding is but a mere illusion. Igor didnt have any combat feat whatsoever just because he is created by Philemon doesnt mean he is a powerful fighter."


No it doesn't. The same can be said for attack animations in general. What does Igor have to do with this? Like at all.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also, many of the things you have posted is completely irrelevant to P5 characters being 3-C. Like at all.

 

[The_Everlasting]

What do Nyx and Persona 3 have to do with anything here?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

What do Nyx and Persona 3 have to do with anything here?

Absolutely nothing. They are by no means relevant to anything in Persona 5.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

They have nothing to do with this.

The Guidebook never mentions the Great Will. All it mentions is that Nyx is an alien entity the size of a celestial body known as a "Star Eater", which is likely a mistranslation since Nyx is moon-sized and her best feat is Planet-level.

So it's more likely that she is a "Planet Eater" and the celestial body is very low on the scale.

Also her being the cause behind the collective unconscious doesn't mean she is the top dog. Philemon and Nyarlathotep are. They are Universal Reality Warpers. You should play Persona 2.

Yaldabaoth was actually merging the entire world with the Metaverse which depending on the implication could actually be Universal too.

And the palaces inside the Metaverse are a reflection of the Seven Deadly Sins' cognition and they can shape it through their mind.

Okumura's Palace is space-themed and has plenty of stars, so that's at least 4-A. And he does a Galaxy level special move in his boss fight.

Also, there are multiple Personas with abilities related to stars, like Lucifer who aligns a constellation in his Morning Star attack.

So no, P3 is not above P5. Joker > Makoto.