Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

[SuperNova55555]

Well if you are saying the Imaginary is the superior form of concepts and where they originate from, then the Imaginary is CM1. But it's clear that Paths also have sway over the universe. And they don't have any of CM2's "weaknesses".

And no I disagree. Yes. Aftertaste did not change in its essence. The concept was simply allocated from Voracity to Elation (the same way Imaginary Energy is allocated from the Imaginary into Paths). It did not change in any way how it's perceived because it was simply stolen from one Path to another..

Aftertaste would exist either way as a concept within the Imaginary. It's just that the Paths took it under their domain. Even if it's "aftertaste-for-voracity" as you say, that concept is still taken from the Imaginary and "kept" under either Path's control and manifests in a way the Path/Aeon controls. The effects of the Paths are CM1 for the universe and distributed across its entirety because they are taken from the Imaginary that is CM1 in itself and has all the concepts already emerged. Idk if you get it I know I am not explaining it well but I can't put it into thoughts rn...

Yea… I don’t see how this addresses anything.

As for the Imaginary, what it refers to is extremely vague. Whether its CM1 or not is completely up for debate, it would simply possess the causal power of the Paths within it.. which is fine for CM2 ig. To say something is “contained” within the Imaginary is the same as saying normal matter is contained within it as being the ordered version of it, because Imaginary Space after all contains the potential for manifest all ordered matter.

 

[Le'garde273]

But then you realize this is the only time Genshin has CM1 back when Genshin Souls were 1:1 of Honkai

Lol garri and you guys literally gatekeep soul stuff from having same fundamental since long ago until cas chan brought up

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

Yea… I don’t see how this addresses anything.

As for the Imaginary, what it refers to is extremely vague. Whether its CM1 or not is completely up for debate, it would simply possess the causal power of the Paths within it.. which is fine for CM2 ig. To say something is “contained” within the Imaginary is the same as saying normal matter is contained within it as being the ordered version of it, because Imaginary Space after all contains the potential for manifest all ordered matter.

For something to be CM2 it needs to have CM2's directionality over the concepts it represents. Otherwise, it's just not it.

Besides, Voracity being affected and in turn every Voracity creature being affected, is already a CM1 feat. Whatever theories we each have about IE or the Paths are irrelevant. Universals don't need to affect every being in every way. Even if it's just Voracity creatures, it's enough.

 

[SuperNova55555]

For something to be CM2 it needs to have CM2's directionality over the concepts it represents. Otherwise, it's just not it.

Besides, Voracity being affected and in turn every Voracity creature being affected, is already a CM1 feat. Whatever theories we each have about IE or the Paths are irrelevant. Universals don't need to affect every being in every way. Even if it's just Voracity creatures, it's enough.

You can have all of this in CM2, lmao.

 

[Le'garde273]

Besides, Voracity being affected and in turn every Voracity creature being affected, is already a CM1 feat.

That's literally how cm2 work, how in the world that was type 1 arguments

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

You can have all of this in CM2, lmao.

How can you have CM2 without directionality?

That's literally how cm2 work, how in the world that was type 1 arguments

No it isn't.

 

[SuperNova55555]

How can you have CM2 without directionality?

What tf does directionality imply

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

What tf does directionality imply

*bidirectionality

 

[SuperNova55555]

*bidirectionality

I already explained it’s dependence on the Path in the original comment I posted.

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

I already explained it’s dependence on the Path in the original comment I posted.

If you mean the relationship between the imaginary and the path, there's quite literally no correlation. That's a cosmology thing.

 

[SuperNova55555]

If you mean the relationship between the imaginary and the path, there's quite literally no correlation. That's a cosmology thing.

All you did was suggest the existence of some third-party concept to resolve the issue of contingency that way. You didnt address any of my other points.

 

[Mbpoops]

Why isn't vietthai wanking

If you laugh.