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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

So shaking an infinite universe is barely 4-A huh
I forgor the size
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How sure are we that this isnt just a simulation because zandar turned the entire space flat before she broke out with lvl 999, even after the fight the location looked like sum simulated space where zandar is administrator of
 
How sure are we that this isnt just a simulation because zandar turned the entire space flat before she broke out with lvl 999, even after the fight the location looked like sum simulated space where zandar is administrator of
This is a throw back to when SW tried to steal a curio I think? From mini Herta and co from their simulated universe.
 
It could be used as multipliers yeah, calc stacking is if you calculate another calc with the previous calc which makes the result unquantifiably higher than b4
Did a quick math, since 1 coreflame is 30 zettafoe, 400 million of them combined would be 12 yottafoe, which is 3B.

If this gets accepted, Phainon and Zephyro (also peak Welt) will get a new value (not sure how others scale to this tho)
 
Did a quick math, since 1 coreflame is 30 zettafoe, 400 million of them combined would be 12 yottafoe, which is 3B.

If this gets accepted, Phainon and Zephyro (also peak Welt) will get a new value (not sure how others scale to this tho)
acting like 400m coreflame burst isnt literally indexed as 2-A bro
but hey Zephyro and Welt upscale im taking that 🙏
 
Genuine question, can the coreflames in Phainon's body be used as multipliers or is that calc stacking?
Tbf, i don't think that's even applicable, flame reaver contains 400 millions coreflames yet didn't show any different and significant strength to other chyros heirs (mydei and phainon himself)

The only part when 400 millions coreflame scaleable is when phainon ignite it to turn himself into giant flame and scratch nanook
 
Tbf, i don't think that's even applicable, flame reaver contains 400 millions coreflames yet didn't show any different and significant strength to other chyros heirs (mydei and phainon himself)

The only part when 400 millions coreflame scaleable is when phainon ignite it to turn himself into giant flame and scratch nanook
Damn, real unfortunate
 
Tbf, i don't think that's even applicable, flame reaver contains 400 millions coreflames yet didn't show any different and significant strength to other chyros heirs (mydei and phainon himself)
he does have an attack animation in which he cuts amphoreus in half i think. and he def showed different strength considering he killed them all
 
Tbf, i don't think that's even applicable, flame reaver contains 400 millions coreflames yet didn't show any different and significant strength to other chyros heirs (mydei and phainon himself)

The only part when 400 millions coreflame scaleable is when phainon ignite it to turn himself into giant flame and scratch nanook
At the same time you could maybe argue for the opposite since the Flame Reaver is actively resisting the Coreflames within him to last long enough to not have his body crumble to ash before he can transfer everything to the next Phainon but yeah it might be a bit of a stretch
 
And I guess there's also the fact that Flame Reaver canonically has brain damage so he's barely hanging onto the last threads of his sanity to complete his mission
 
Tbf, i don't think that's even applicable, flame reaver contains 400 millions coreflames yet didn't show any different and significant strength to other chyros heirs (mydei and phainon himself)

The only part when 400 millions coreflame scaleable is when phainon ignite it to turn himself into giant flame and scratch nanook
The issue is that Flame Reaver is literally a decaying husk, and the fact that he didn't even transform into Khaslana sorta implies he wasn't even going all out. During the previous cycles, FR was continuously killing all the heirs as Khaslana, which means a serious healthy FR should upscale the CHs. Also, the fact that TB needed the help of Post-Dawnmaker Phainon, despite being a demigod of time, already puts a barely serious decaying FR above a CH.


Regarding the Nanook feat, we have two options:
1. The smart idea of Phainon's peak being attributed to his rage power rather than the coreflames. So the profile would just be "3B with all coreflames, 2-A with rage power' (this also means he pulls a Kratos and gains rage power as an ability, which works since he was at peak rage when he scratched Nanook.)
2. The dumb idea where a single coreflame scales to 1/400 millionth to Nanook, which makes everyone tier 1.
 
At the same time you could maybe argue for the opposite since the Flame Reaver is actively resisting the Coreflames within him to last long enough to not have his body crumble to ash before he can transfer everything to the next Phainon but yeah it might be a bit of a stretch
he was resisting them from the beginning of each recurrence until the end which lasts thousands of years.
 
The issue is that Flame Reaver is literally a decaying husk, and the fact that he didn't even transform into Khaslana sorta implies he wasn't even going all out. During the previous cycles, FR was continuously killing all the heirs as Khaslana, which means a serious healthy FR should upscale the CHs. Also, the fact that TB needed the help of Post-Dawnmaker Phainon, despite being a demigod of time, already puts a barely serious decaying FR above a CH.


Regarding the Nanook feat, we have two options:
1. The smart idea of Phainon's peak being attributed to his rage power rather than the coreflames. So the profile would just be "3B with all coreflames, 2-A with rage power' (this also means he pulls a Kratos and gains rage power as an ability, which works since he was at peak rage when he scratched Nanook.)
2. The dumb idea where a single coreflame scales to 1/400 millionth to Nanook, which makes everyone tier 1.
Option 1 sounds pretty good yeah
 
Also feels narratively fitting anyway since the whole point was Phainon's fury reaching to such an extent that it forced him into the domain of the gods out of sheer willpower
 
he does have an attack animation in which he cuts amphoreus in half i think. and he def showed different strength considering he killed them all
You won't convince me if he cut amphoreus as real thing, or else how in the world they still in amphoreus like nothing happen😭, even evernight corrupted amphoreus is still consider as real and greater feat than this
At the same time you could maybe argue for the opposite since the Flame Reaver is actively resisting the Coreflames within him to last long enough to not have his body crumble to ash before he can transfer everything to the next Phainon but yeah it might be a bit of a stretch
There's literally like a lygus data log that tells you the moment phainon use it is when he burst the entire coreflame to scratch nanook. Literally stated use 400 millions coreflame only for "momentary burst", never in the previous state.

On serious note, if you really think flame reaver works in that way, it would affected the entire scalling as normal phainon and demi god mydei able to compete with this 400 millions coreflame flame reaver
 
Also feels narratively fitting anyway since the whole point was Phainon's fury reaching to such an extent that it forced him into the domain of the gods out of sheer willpower
Flares of the Blazing Sun started playing in my head the moment I read this


Infinite 4d
Thanks to Genshin’s world size, physical universe in Honkai Impact / Star Rail is effectively a multiverse

It’s large part of why Aeons are 2-A
Genshin is carrying us

hello!??! 😭
I owe a Sykkuno-level apology



Thoughts on this?:

The issue is that Flame Reaver is literally a decaying husk, and the fact that he didn't even transform into Khaslana sorta implies he wasn't even going all out. During the previous cycles, FR was continuously killing all the heirs as Khaslana, which means a serious healthy FR should upscale the CHs. Also, the fact that TB needed the help of Post-Dawnmaker Phainon, despite being a demigod of time, already puts a barely serious decaying FR above a CH.


Regarding the Nanook feat, we have two options:
1. The smart idea of Phainon's peak being attributed to his rage power rather than the coreflames. So the profile would just be "3B with all coreflames, 2-A with rage power' (this also means he pulls a Kratos and gains rage power as an ability, which works since he was at peak rage when he scratched Nanook.)
2. The dumb idea where a single coreflame scales to 1/400 millionth to Nanook, which makes everyone tier 1.
 
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