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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

PlungingThroughTime said:
Missed the point btw.

Interstellar Travel data bank:


Also Zandar is heavily theorised to be the first Emanator, we know he was the first Erudition Emanator at least, but he genuinely might've been the 1st Emanator as a whole. It just seems like the concept doesn't date back before that. People generally couldn't explore space but we know travelling Intertidal Zones is an Emanator thing.

This is why I bring up Long's Scions. It might be their physiology that allows them to travel Intertidal Zones, hence why the title of Emanator seems much newer than they do.
They could very well all be Emanators or something like it and that's what allows them to travel Intertidal Zones, but Leviathans can travel the Intertidal Zones too and predate most of the aeons (data bank says all, but I assume Long was still around). It's unlikely all Leviathans are Emanators.
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i mean tbf yea this makes sense, i wouldnt say ALL scions of long are emanators that would be literally EVERY vidyahara but i mean aeons predate zandar himself so its more than likely that there were "emanators" before zandar they just werent named emanators
 
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woah Star of eden > aeons???
 
PlungingThroughTime said:
Missed the point btw.

Interstellar Travel data bank:


Also Zandar is heavily theorised to be the first Emanator, we know he was the first Erudition Emanator at least, but he genuinely might've been the 1st Emanator as a whole. It just seems like the concept doesn't date back before that. People generally couldn't explore space but we know travelling Intertidal Zones is an Emanator thing.

This is why I bring up Long's Scions. It might be their physiology that allows them to travel Intertidal Zones, hence why the title of Emanator seems much newer than they do.
They could very well all be Emanators or something like it and that's what allows them to travel Intertidal Zones, but Leviathans can travel the Intertidal Zones too and predate most of the aeons (data bank says all, but I assume Long was still around). It's unlikely all Leviathans are Emanators.
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There’s actually also the odd chance that maybe they couldn’t lol
 
Mbpoops said:
After 2.1 he was irrelevant to the entire plot of amphoreus. Actually everything pre end of 3.3 was pretty much irrelevant cus we started getting into the actual story aka irontomb what does kremnos have to do with irontomb again..?
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I mean you can apply that logic to every Chrysos Heir that wasn't Phainon in the first half of Amphoreus if you're talking about this in regards to what you said, but dismissing their relevance to Amphoreus just because they weren't doing some absurdly crazy things involving Irontomb or the Eternal Recurrence throughout the story when they literally couldn't is kind of downplaying their characters.

What makes characters like Aglaea, Tribbie, Mydei, Anaxa, Castorice, Hyacine and Cipher relevant to Amphoreus isn't their involvement in the big "end of the world" storyline looming over their setting, but their personal stories that characterizes them and how it shapes their actions on the Flame-Chase Journey. I'd argue this applies to characters like Phainon, Cyrene, Cerydra and Hysilens too. What shapes them as "characters" and how it's presented throughout the story is far more important to the story of Amphoreus (and the audience) than their contribution to a large plotline that can be changed to suit contrived reasons (e.g. Bias towards certain characters to boost sales).
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
INTERESTING. How interesting indeed. However, it looks like I missed a key and @Yanina92 and @Jackof_noTrades068 being correct about it being Cocoon instead.
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its not even waves in question but random mars sciencist trolling hi3 players by dropping... "hmm yes this entity truly exists beyond space and time...how about i compare it to img barrriers?"
 
PedjaTarzan said:
its not even waves in question but random mars sciencist trolling hi3 players by dropping... "hmm yes this entity truly exists beyond space and time...how about i compare it to img barrriers?
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False God Otto having absolutely infinite Honkai energy.
Tidal zones are said to be “nearly inexhaustible” rather than infinite

Otto has more Honkai than the cocoon itself confirmed?
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
The funniest thing about Cocoon ~ Emanator stuff tbh is how Welt doesn’t get instantly incinerated (like how base Kevin negged this guy cough) when he helps with jumping emanators in HSR😭
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Tbf we don't have any context on that alternate timeline where he faced Zephyro so it's possible that Welt popped zeroth power and Zephyro was like "huh, cool" and then responded with a white hole just for fun (same guy who goes around drilling into the cores of planets and starting cyclones for the love of the game)
 
Scrubforhire said:
Tbf we don't have any context on that alternate timeline where he faced Zephyro so it's possible that Welt popped zeroth power and Zephyro was like "huh, cool" and then responded with a white hole just for fun (same guy who goes around drilling into the cores of planets and starting cyclones for the love of the game)
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"just for fun" nuking entire cosmos is not for fun bro 🙏
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Nah bro think about it

Noblesse Worm Vs Cocoon
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I’m pretty sure it genuinely solos 😭 not sure how Cocoon is beating an entire Path’s energy.

Mind you lmao, a single Imaginary Domain is about a galaxies worth of masterless IE (yes, the Cocoon scan uses the same term as HSR does, surprisingly lmao) but we know Aeons convert masterless IE into Path Energy universally.

Rough.
 
Scrubforhire said:
Tbf we don't have any context on that alternate timeline where he faced Zephyro so it's possible that Welt popped zeroth power and Zephyro was like "huh, cool" and then responded with a white hole just for fun (same guy who goes around drilling into the cores of planets and starting cyclones for the love of the game)
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This is literally what I tried explaining to @PedjaTarzan btw
 
If zephyro can nuke cosmos for fun why isnt he elation emanator instead? is he stupid? he locked his acces to nuke cosmos for fun behind a path that needs to destroy cosmos overtime instead 😭 🔫
 
Scrubforhire said:
Tbf we don't have any context on that alternate timeline where he faced Zephyro so it's possible that Welt popped zeroth power and Zephyro was like "huh, cool" and then responded with a white hole just for fun (same guy who goes around drilling into the cores of planets and starting cyclones for the love of the game)
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Yes, Welt doesn’t even remotely scale to Zephyro. I’m not sure why he’s still being posited as hanging with him somehow.

Zephyro was playing with Khaslana as well, and we can clearly see how one-sided that fight was.
 
SW when u ask her to flip the script and not get aura diffed from future zephyro and let unc take him on instead
 
So uh. Is Acheron the equivalent to a Herrscher of Finality? I mean, IX’s Shadow did literally the exact same thing to Izumo as Cocoon did to Earth.

Even the relic set posits the cycles as well lol:
Only that pitch-black great sun knows the answer, yet THEY remain silent, never speaking.

Because everything that had happened will one day regress to the end, and everything that had ended is guaranteed to happen again. The universe undergoes an eternal recurrence under THEIR shadow, and Izumo is nothing more than the footnote for an ellipsis.
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The people of Izumo use tassels to bind the sharp blades to their belts. They walk the world to hunt down kami with their blades, then used the divine carcasses to forge new blades... In this never-ending cycle, Izumo marches toward prosperity, towards disillusion, and towards the void.
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SuperNova55555 said:
Yes, Welt doesn’t even remotely scale to Zephyro. I’m not sure why he’s still being posited as hanging with him somehow.

Zephyro was playing with Khaslana as well, and we can clearly see how one-sided that fight was.
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It kinda sucks how in the future they're probably gonna have tb be amped by acheron or something just so we can fight zephyro as a boss when tb would normally get one tapped 🥀

Can we please have Zephyro just be an unbeatable boss that shows up only in certain story segments 🙏
 
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