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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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The entire point of Terminus is ascending once the Universe is about to end over and over again in order to reverse time lmao.terminus' whole thing is going back to the beginning of the universe and turning into his 1000 armed form wdym he ascended at the beginningalso thats another herta nuke
Where did he get that he ascended during the big bang???
He does this AFTER becoming an Aeon lmao
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HSR: Nuking everything with 100 layers of contradictionsterminus' whole thing is going back to the beginning of the universe and turning into his 1000 armed form wdym he ascended at the beginning
HI3: Left to fix those contradictions
And we still know nothing about the CoF or Kiana
Hell
Give us more glaze and just have her say she's above them already
Mbpoops
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then theres fuli
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Both Fuli and Terminus have already technically ascended in the future. The existence of Fuli as a reflection of it’s memory and of Terminus’ cats make this irrefutable
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another herta contradiction yay
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Can Screwllum steal her Emanator title already oml
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Anything for you babe
Mbpoops
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ngl i thought all genious society were emanators
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Nah Screwllum’s just a Pathstrider. The only Emanators are Zandar, Polka (Possibly), Dr. Primitive and Herta
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Polka is SW victim
Mbpoops
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statement merchant herta... there was once a time when she was scaled to zephyro
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I’m pretty sure there’s no direct confirmation on Polka but she has way too much aura not to be one. But honestly who knows with HSR nowadays
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Genius Society is just Cool Kid Club nothing more
Mbpoops
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i mean everyone just be boxing emanators nowadays
Mbpoops
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dr ratio wanted no part of this
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nah Ratio would destroy universe if doing it mean he can join them; altho it seem he did acknowledge that he will never become onedr ratio wanted no part of this
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last thing i am gonna say cuz like usual, talking gets nowhere in here
first ascension: him becoming an aeon in first place. unless he is different in that regard, current info tells us that ALL aeons ascend to gain said form.
second ascension: defragmentation. him becoming complete again is the second ascension similarly to fuli who has already ascended but will also ascend in the future but because they're outside of time, they have ascended already. terminus needs to have ascended ALREADY once because 1) finality as a path exists 2) pathstriders and emanators of finality exist. similarly. to. fuli. being. reexpressed.
tldr: origin > fragmentation > recompletion
now u can go back to your cj
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Russss
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They. Have. Not. Ascended. Yet.
Neither of them have. They ascend in the future and then use their time powers to reflect themselves into the past one way or another. Fuli gazes at us from the future. Literally so. They and Terminus are not an Aeon at any point prior to the end of the universe.
You are just making lore up for the sake of your powerscaling agenda.
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It's the Reddit agenda bro
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Like the entire point of Amphoreus’ cycle as a Microcosm of the Cosmos is to showcase a reductive version of the real universe where Terminus becomes Finality at the end of the universe, the same way Phainon becomes Khaslana at the end of an Eternal Recurrence.
That’s why “Worldbearing” is represented by the “Trailblaze”, because the Trailblaze is what determines and very likely literally becomes Finality at the end of the universe.
(It is why Terminus is called Terminus; i.e “the end of a railway” and also “the end of space-time”)
That’s why “Worldbearing” is represented by the “Trailblaze”, because the Trailblaze is what determines and very likely literally becomes Finality at the end of the universe.
(It is why Terminus is called Terminus; i.e “the end of a railway” and also “the end of space-time”)
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explain the existene of their respective paths then if they are bound by time and if they haven't ascended.
no you are just refusing lore for the sake of being right
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You can be “bound” by time and still have time manipulation powers. This is a blatant false dichotomy.
Do you think every character with time travel is outerversal now or something?
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I mean, the reductio here is that you believe that every Aeon can do what Terminus does if the time shit is a derivative of ontic status rather than their unique abilities.
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The problem is that Finality is outright unbound by what they govern (time), we had this discussion back in the CM1 thread so bringing up general case scenario when we both do know it's not like this doesn't help at all
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You mean the Cocoon of Finality? Do you think Terminus is Kiana or something?
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It refers to the Authority of Finality. You'd have to prove that Terminus is bound by time because Finality as an aspect or should I say concept isn't.
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Which this specific “Authority of Finality” you’re referring to is the one belonging to the Cocoon and not the path governed by Terminus. And don’t even get me started on how the CN is actually different for Finality in Hi3 and Finality in HSR, they’re not even the same in terminology.
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Pull this up
Bro got me curious
How bad is the terminology
Zanesucksatlife
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Holy
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Cocoon has 终焉
Terminus has 终末
Terminus has 终末
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what does time manip have to do with them existing already in some form????????????
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I didn't expect you to be arguing for semantics here to be honest, does this mean that Permanence in HI3 and HSR are different despite both of them originating from Long?
The first is still the same, so it doesn't really matter unless it's a completely different one.
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Because your comment is implying that their Path’s existence cannot be explained if they’re bound by time. And I explained why that doesn’t need to be the case.
First of all, pull up the terminology in both games for Permanence, and secondly, it doesn’t matter because they are referring to two different things within the cosmology.
Cocoon precedes the Honkai/Imaginary Energy in the Tree whereas Terminus is a derivative of Imaginary Energy. Not to mention they have zero relation to each other aside from their abilities being related to time in some way.
The burden is on YOU to prove they’re the same thing, whilst also reconciling the very obvious narrative issues.
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I mean, Nether, if you want to argue that when Terminus is dividing all of it’s power to create the cats, it’s actually dividing all of the Cocoon’s power to do so, then sure, be my guest. I guess it just means Cocoon isn’t even omnipotent within the Tree.
I guess Weaver was right when they said Cocoon = a single Imaginary Domain lel
I guess Weaver was right when they said Cocoon = a single Imaginary Domain lel
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