Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

[Mbpoops]

We can just clarify it in another crt since some people want ts closed REALLY bad

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

Ah yes transcending path space is imaginary space
I guess the material world is higher than imaginary
According to redditors

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

The cross-section of a 3D cube is a 2D square. Does that make the square an “avatar” of the cube?

idk what u mean there. we aren't talking about an intersection. and that's different than an actual avatar being sent out w purpose

them being bound to tree is also just a hypothesis that hasn't been verified

 

[SuperNova55555]

idk what u mean there. we aren't talking about an intersection. and that's different than an actual avatar being sent out w purpose

I’m saying that that’s what’s being meant when it talks about the dimensionality of Aeons. You’re just making the avatar stuff up.

 

[Mbpoops]

idk what u mean there. we aren't talking about an intersection. and that's different than an actual avatar being sent out w purpose

them being bound to tree is also just a hypothesis that hasn't been verified

We’re literally told their fates are bound to the universe which isnt even the ACTUAL tree just the 4D universe

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

We’re literally told their fates are bound to the universe which isnt even the ACTUAL tree just the 4D universe

^

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

i aint said anywhere "this is a thing" nor i am not making anything up im saying its a possibility. the statement hasn't been further explored. why would you rule it out?

We’re literally told their fates are bound to the universe which isnt even the ACTUAL tree just the 4D universe

when and by whom

 

[Mbpoops]

i aint said anywhere "this is a thing" nor i am not making anything up im saying its a possibility. the statement hasn't been further explored. why would you rule it out?

when and by whom

I gotta find the scan but im not on my pc rn

 

[Voidnether]

We’re literally told their fates are bound to the universe which isnt even the ACTUAL tree just the 4D universe

The fate of the Aeons were never bound to anything lmfao what are you talking about

 

[SuperNova55555]

The fate of the Aeons were never bound to anything lmfao what are you talking about

“…the universe and the Aeons it birthed are utterly beyond prediction.”

 

[Voidnether]

“…the universe and the Aeons it birthed are utterly beyond prediction.”

"Their future is like that of the universe itself, and beyond the ability of our calculations." Mind telling me how tf is future here juxtaposed to fate?

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

1) fu xuan wrote that aka possibly unreliable narrator
2) her understanding and definition of the universe could not be correct or complete
3) that literally has proves NOTHING

 

[SuperNova55555]

"Their future is like that of the universe itself, and beyond the ability of our calculations." Mind telling me how tf is future here juxtaposed to fate?

That’s the same thing. Fate in Honkai is the future

 

[Mbpoops]

Fate destiny and finality all allude to time finality is just moreso the power of time while fate and destiny ate individual futurez

 

[SuperNova55555]

1) fu xuan wrote that aka possibly unreliable narrator
2) her understanding and definition of the universe could not be correct or complete
3) that literally has proves NOTHING

We know it’s correct because we get it confirmed via Yao Guang as well.

Nous can predict Aeons because it calculates the entire Universe, whereas Yao Guang only has limited calculations thus she is only the “Nous of Planarcadia”.

Also “unreliable narrator” is completely unjustified, there needs to be an implicit actual reason why something is to be unreliable and not just vibes.

 

[Mbpoops]

Herta, a known genuious society member, has been the only unreliable narrator in the verse

 

[Voidnether]

That’s the same thing. Fate in Honkai is the future

Prove it because I genuinely think there are misconceptions here, when the future is also correlated to "possibility" and I'm sure no one would say that the Aeons are bound by possibilities when they definitely aren't bound if they're the ones who control them

 

[SuperNova55555]

Aeons are bound by possibilities

They explicitly are?????? Holy larp

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

what did yao confirm??

Nous can predict Aeons

that's also a hypothesis. where was that stated?

Also “unreliable narrator” is completely unjustified, there needs to be an implicit actual reason why something is to be unreliable and not just vibes.

uh divination is not 100% correct and that's been alluded to everytime it's been mentioned. yao guang HERSELF also proves that by forcing sunday to wear the mask and avoid the future.

man you two...

 

[SuperNova55555]

I’m sorry but does Nether think all Aeons are Nous but also using Instants 24/7

 

[Voidnether]

They explicitly are?????? Holy larp

Prove it.

 

[Mbpoops]

Prove it because I genuinely think there are misconceptions here, when the future is also correlated to "possibility" and I'm sure no one would say that the Aeons are bound by possibilities when they definitely aren't bound if they're the ones who control them

This is another hsr inconsistancy cause wdym every being causes a quantum collapse but then these possibilities still exist??

 

[Voidnether]

This is another hsr inconsistancy cause wdym every being causes a quantum collapse but then these possibilities still exist??

Those only happen with Pathstriders.

 

[SuperNova55555]

that's also a hypothesis. where was that stated?

When it does the Instants…?

uh divination is not 100% correct and that's been alluded to everytime it's been mentioned. yao guang HERSELF also proves that by forcing sunday to wear the mask and avoid the future.

Negative tracking.

Prove it.

How do you think Elio can choose a new future or see alternative possibilities of Aeons if everything is deterministic?

 

[Mbpoops]

Those only happen with Pathstriders.

So damn near every being

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

Prove it because I genuinely think there are misconceptions here, when the future is also correlated to "possibility" and I'm sure no one would say that the Aeons are bound by possibilities when they definitely aren't bound if they're the ones who control them

So they can cause a quantum collapse
But possibilities are infinite?
What is this garbage writing

 

[SuperNova55555]

Sorry bro, I guess Elio’s and Nous’ entire shtick is cheeks now because Aeons are suddenly completely deterministic

 

[Voidnether]

When it does the Instants…?


Negative tracking.


How do you think Elio can choose a new future or see alternative possibilities of Aeons if everything is deterministic?

This is completely irrelevant, It's just saying that Aeons have infinite possibilities, and thus a tool that can only calculate finite possibilities cannot calculate the Aeons.

You said this on your own thread, bringing Elio up is red herring because you KNOW that Elio is able to see INFINITE POSSIBILITIES by IPC

Genuinely why would Aeons be bound by finite possibilities if you ADMITTED YOURSELF the Matrix of Prescience Ultima is unable because they're only able to calculate finite possibilities and not infinite possibilities ones lol

So damn near every being?

No? Did you forget what Screwllum said? You don't necessarily have to be a Pathstrider to be able to use Path Energy

 

[Mbpoops]

Prove it because I genuinely think there are misconceptions here, when the future is also correlated to "possibility" and I'm sure no one would say that the Aeons are bound by possibilities when they definitely aren't bound if they're the ones who control them

btw this is wrong, possibilities are parrallel worlds born from choices basically mwi i can try and go in depth more on it but depending on the context possibilities are either the future or just alternate timelines

 

[Voidnether]

So they can cause a quantum collapse
But possibilities are infinite?
What is this garbage writing

Elio bypassed this btw by summoning future Silver Wolf to box against present Silver Wolf despite said Silver Wolf is already a Pathstrider of Elation, or Emanator

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

This is another hsr inconsistancy cause wdym every being causes a quantum collapse but then these possibilities still exist??

yo bro just because something hasn't been explored fully yet and exists as an unanswered question, it doesn't mean its an inconsistency u new gens

When it does the Instants…?

mind u no instant involved another aeon

Negative tracking.

how so?

How do you think Elio can choose a new future or see alternative possibilities of Aeons if everything is deterministic?

what makes u think his attempts are actually working? the entire point of the game is that even if the destination is predetermined, how and why we get there can be different to everyone. we had a whole ass event on this.btw we've only seen him like 2 times overall. why do u want everything answered in the 4th year of the game's release?

 

[SuperNova55555]

Genuinely why would Aeons be bound by finite possibilities if you ADMITTED YOURSELF the Matrix of Prescience Ultima is unable because they're only able to calculate finite possibilities and not infinite possibilities ones lol

I. Never. Said. They. Were. Bound. By. Finite. Possibilities.

Genuinely you have the worst tracking of any single individual on this site. Do you even read my comments before replying???

 

[Mbpoops]

btw this is wrong, possibilities are parrallel worlds born from choices basically mwi i can try and go in depth more on it but depending on the context possibilities are either the future or just alternate timelines

The fact these possibilities collide on a single entity kills mwi so like… pick your poison

 

[Voidnether]

btw this is wrong, possibilities are parrallel worlds born from choices basically mwi i can try and go in depth more on it but depending on the context possibilities are either the future or just alternate timelines

What tf is this word salad if it's still INFINITE

 

[Mbpoops]

yo bro just because something hasn't been explored fully yet and exists as an unanswered question, it doesn't mean its an inconsistency u new gens

No bro. Hsr tried to posit both MWI (branching timelines) and quantum collapse as both existing in the same continuity. THAT IS LOGICALLY AND FACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. If a quantum collapse happens those timelines are dead you cant have both so its either there are infinite timelines or theres 1 and the constantly contradict eachother each patch

 

[Voidnether]

The fact these possibilities collide on a single entity kills mwi so like… pick your poison

Elio bypassed this btw by summoning future Silver Wolf to box against present Silver Wolf despite said Silver Wolf is already a Pathstrider of Elation, or Emanator

I. Never. Said. They. Were. Bound. By. Finite. Possibilities.

Genuinely you have the worst tracking of any single individual on this site. Do you even read my comments before replying???

When you were the one saying they're bound by possibilities yet not specifically specifying what possibilities?

 

[Voidnether]

No bro. Hsr tried to posit both MWI (branching timelines) and quantum collapse as both existing in the same continuity. THAT IS LOGICALLY AND FACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. If a quantum collapse happens those timelines are dead you cant have both so its either there are infinite timelines or theres 1 and the constantly contradict eachother each patch

Elio bypassed this btw by summoning future Silver Wolf to box against present Silver Wolf despite said Silver Wolf is already a Pathstrider of Elation, or Emanator

 

[Mbpoops]

When you were the one saying they're bound by possibilities yet not specifically specifying what possibilities?

Your scan contradicts herta’s anaology btw because branches are the present meaning the future hasnt happened yet. Elio could only summon SW if the future already existed so again pick your poison

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

Yk
I guess iron tomb is stronger than the fraudulent Aeons
A war between Aeons destroyed 2/3 of the HSR universe yet Irontomb destroyed the entire tree?

Elio bypassed this btw by summoning future Silver Wolf to box against present Silver Wolf despite said Silver Wolf is already a Pathstrider of Elation, or Emanator

So Elio bypassed Quantam collapse which is ending all possibilities..?

Put the pen down shaoji

Nous you aren't musashi

Atp HI3 needs to save star rail

 

[Mbpoops]

Your scan contradicts herta’s anaology btw because branches are the present meaning the future hasnt happened yet. Elio could only summon SW if the future already existed so again pick your poison

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