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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

CastoriceTheFifth said:
Can someone explain why SOE and White Hole aren't scaling to their own feat.
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Cuz it’s not replicable unless they interact with each other. Zephyro has a similar feat with IX, but once again he’d need to interact with another character (specifically, black hole) for it, so it’s not intrinsically scalable
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Cuz it’s not replicable unless they interact with each other. Zephyro has a similar feat with IX, but once again he’d need to interact with another character (specifically, black hole) for it, so it’s not intrinsically scalable
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By the way, I’m not against having it as a possible “up to Low 1-C” feat. I js don’t think its chainscalable or attributable to any specific character in their intrinsic nature (since it’s a specific shared feat)
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Cuz it’s not replicable unless they interact with each other. Zephyro has a similar feat with IX, but once again he’d need to interact with another character (specifically, black hole) for it, so it’s not intrinsically scalable
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Doesn't this logic mean that any and all shared feats gets nuked on the wiki because they interacted with another person during a clash despite it requiring their own strength/energy output to accomplish
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Doesn't this logic mean that any and all shared feats gets nuked on the wiki because they interacted with another person during a clash despite it requiring their own strength/energy output to accomplish
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No, Im saying Zephyro’s thing is js a very specific application, so its not as simple as adding A + B
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Is it because of Gravity hax or something?
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Sort of, yea. I think the symbolism Hoyo is tryna pull is that a White Hole basically causes everything absorbed by a black hole to be expunged violently, rather than js being two energies combined. It’s not like they’re just punching each other really hard
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Sort of, yea. I think the symbolism Hoyo is tryna pull is that a White Hole basically causes everything absorbed by a black hole to be expunged violently, rather than js being two energies combined. It’s not like they’re just punching each other really hard
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Based on the original crt according to thread mod, the Gravity hax isn’t what is indexed but their HE/IE was instead. Like Quasi Black Hole didn’t get the rating but his HE did due to Divine Key requiring Welt’s own strength and power so any and all feats are still scalable due to his energy output. They weren’t originally going to get the rating if it was purely only holes clashing.

Mbpoops said:
How many crts are you working on btw?
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Several dragon maid applications. Another dragon maid crt but physiology page. Demon Slayer applications. Tier 2 Infinite Speed Demon Slayer. Irontomb mini fix. Etc.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Based on the original crt according to thread mod, the Gravity hax isn’t what is indexed but their HE/IE was instead. Like Quasi Black Hole didn’t get the rating but his HE did due to Divine Key requiring Welt’s own strength and power so any and all feats are still scalable due to his energy output. They weren’t originally going to get the rating if it was purely only holes clashing.
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So basically welt destroyed the universe solo
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Several dragon maid applications. Another dragon maid crt but physiology page. Demon Slayer applications. Tier 2 Infinite Speed Demon Slayer. Irontomb mini fix. Etc.
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Rip the dahlia
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Based on the original crt according to thread mod, the Gravity hax isn’t what is indexed but their HE/IE was instead. Like Quasi Black Hole didn’t get the rating but his HE did due to Divine Key requiring Welt’s own strength and power so any and all feats are still scalable due to his energy output. They weren’t originally going to get the rating if it was purely only holes clashing.
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On a serious note, it makes little sense honestly. I mean, to begin with, this would at best scale to Zephyro only. Which also becomes an issue since he always needs a black hole (prob related to some power like Nihility) to actually cause the explosion since it seems that he himself is intrinsically incapable of replicating the feat.

It’s not like… I’d be mad about a Zephyro upscale tho… not like anyone is chainscaling anyways.
 
SuperNova55555 said:
On a serious note, it makes little sense honestly. I mean, to begin with, this would at best scale to Zephyro only. Which also becomes an issue since he always needs a black hole (prob related to some power like Nihility) to actually cause the explosion since it seems that he himself is intrinsically incapable of replicating the feat.

It’s not like… I’d be mad about a Zephyro upscale tho… not like anyone is chainscaling anyways.
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I mean if you’re trying to either argue Zephyro no diffing Welt, Zephyro holding back against Welt, or Welt being the only one that got jobbed during the fight and that Zephyro lived then that gives it even more of a reason that Zephyro scales to the clash (or atleast divide by 2)
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
I mean if you’re trying to either argue Zephyro no diffing Welt, Zephyro holding back against Welt, or Welt being the only one that got jobbed during the fight and that Zephyro lived then that gives it even more of a reason that Zephyro scales to the clash (or atleast divide by 2)
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Why would zephyro scale to the clash… where was zephyro when irontomb erased the universe? Or when cyrene and tb froze the universe?? Why would zephyro hold back against welt here welt pushed him to the point of using his white hole. I dont think welt scsles to zephyro but like saying zephyro held back so much that he scales to the entire universe blowing up is stupid like why would nanook rven need irontomb atp
 
Mbpoops said:
Why would zephyro scale to the clash… where was zephyro when irontomb erased the universe? Or when cyrene and tb froze the universe?? Why would zephyro hold back against welt here welt pushed him to the point of using his white hole. I dont think welt scsles to zephyro but like saying zephyro held back so much that he scales to the entire universe blowing up is stupid like why would nanook rven need irontomb atp
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You're the one that kept telling me Nova is saying Zephyro negative diffed Welt so I'm telling bro that gives Zephyro even more of a reason to scale.
 
Also, the vagueness of the statement itself (rupturing the cosmos) is something to consider.

CastoriceTheFifth said:
I mean if you’re trying to either argue Zephyro no diffing Welt, Zephyro holding back against Welt, or Welt being the only one that got jobbed during the fight and that Zephyro lived then that gives it even more of a reason that Zephyro scales to the clash (or atleast divide by 2)
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CastoriceTheFifth said:
You're the one that kept telling me Nova is saying Zephyro negative diffed Welt so I'm telling bro that gives Zephyro even more of a reason to scale.
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I do think that. My baby boy Zeph deserves all the nachos
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Also, the vagueness of the statement itself (rupturing the cosmos) is something to consider.
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ill have to agree with this bcs rupturing doesnt mean completely destroying but CN wanked them by saying "break apart" or "tear apart" i forgot
which isnt bad bcs i love my nivea man zephyro and unc the same so...
 
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