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I’d agree but you see him clutching his face and “you take it from here” isn’t something generally used if they aren’t really feeling it. Jing Yuan also asks for help like as soon as she uses Destruction aka her true power to attack.
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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Welt is so generous, lending everyone feats again
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It always and I mean always
Ties back to Welt Yang
I’ve never seen a character so easily chainscale worthy while being just a mid tier ever
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Fr. Generally you get characters with actual feats, statement merchants or strongest archetypes who get to leech from everyone. Welt is singehandedly, continuously upscaling two verses
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Well yea he was feeling it same way phantylia was feeling dan heng’s attacks jingyuan dan heng and phantylia are relative tho phantylia is slightly stronger
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Do you think she’s stronger at like a base level or was it just because of the Abundance boost?
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Well her “base level” is tingyun…
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HUMANITY WILL PURGE WANKAITo save the verse… some must be nuked…
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Honkai Franchise scaling would genuinely be so weird if Welt and Star of Eden didn’t exist atp
Well tbf HI3’s speed calcs and feats aren’t breaching FTL besides CoF Kiana’s superluminal bulletHi3 cast has their own speed calcs ontop of this
Unfortunately no one there just has a move that can cover the whole imaginary tree as a direct attack and not as a hax like Irontomb
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Elysia moving stars
True but cof kiana is infinite speed so thats good enough for mebesides CoF Kiana’s superluminal bullet
Unfortunately no one there just has a move that can cover the whole imaginary tree as a direct attack and not as a hax like Irontomb
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Touché, if Welt’s chainscaling didn’t make it unnecessary to use then this would be a good MFTL+ feat for AHR Kevin / Flamescion / Ego Elysia tier characters
Sa is 1/10th of Kiana and Muh UES. So And Garuda scared away Sa. So Garuda Hua and Sa are 1/10th of infinite speed. Which is infinite. But Garuda Hua is weaker than AHR Kevin.
I gave endgame high tiers for HI3 infinite speed (I’m a genius trust the process)
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She doesn't have "base level" As she was heliobus and doesn't have physical body
What make her as lord ravager literally not her strengths (cause she doesn't have one until after getting body from abundance) but her destruction philosophy and manipulative to make chaos internal conflicts within civilizations
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Wait fr? I thought all Lord Ravagers got boosted by Nanook.
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they are, all their bodies are forged inside warforge (main planet of AML) its phantylia has 1000 diff avatars according to her profile card
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Otto wannabe
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That's one thing, but i believe we all agreed being resonance with path aren't necessary to translated as "strength".
Her description directly mention if she specializes in destroy "mentally and spiritually" By lies, illusions, and manipulation, not material strength.
It's kinda like asad pramad being never directly in battlefield rather being ravager specializes in observation and strategic mastermind.
And phantylia actually made a point even among the lord ravagers, if they seek the most destructive ravager they would be doomed if they encounter celenova or zephyro
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Is it really jobbing if Huaiyan is just that guy?Celenova jobbed against huaiyan
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I mean you can scale them to that tier no? Welt aint close to any of those anyway
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I mean he looks like Sensei Wu from Ninjago and has that Master Oogway aura so he lowkey might be That guy
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I don’t mean as in Welt downscales em I just wouldn’t be surprised if Asdana related feats would get higher numbers than Elysia’s star spinning.
So they’d just upscale from that instead.
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No wonder he isn’t playable. He’d be too broken
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Give it 3 years and Hoyo will give a contrivance for him to become 6 feet tall and young looking so he can become playable lmao
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Right i believe, it just every lord ravager have different view of philosphies in "destruction"
Phantylia (Destruction from inside)
=> love doing internal conflict
Zephyro (Destruction as art)
=> Love doing physical destruction
Celenova (Destruction as military)
=> Doing invasion as total conqueror with her anti matter legion
Irontomb (Intellectual Destruction)
=> Focus on destroying knowledge and technologies
Asat Pramad (Melancholic Destruction)
=> destroyed the world slowly and methodically so that its inhabitants would experience loss of hope then mock them
Archforger (Destruction as ?)
=> didn't know exactly what this dude view other than forging anything to be genocide weapons
Luxbane (Cosmic Destruction ig)
=> eating stars so the space and planets left in total darkness
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I actually hope this doesn’t happen. I unironically want a playable short grandpa
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Could be Destruction via Creation. Forging weapons of war
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If qlipoth "forging" to preserve life in the universe
I guess archforger kinda "reforging" To destroy life that been preserved
Since lord ravager was the anti-thesis of their representative paths
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And yet he's still a goat in the content he appears in (hi3 at least) it's genuinely astounding.
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Fake Skaz is just vaguely better than pre Penacony TB and Fate Skaz can just scale to best girl Saber
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wasnt CN for the tree something like shijie or? i dont remember that being the word for entire IT.
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No that one means “world” which refers to leaves. That’s the one usually mistranslated into universe.
IT is the one I put above. 多宇宙 (duō yǔzhòu) is also the one which appears for IX when it talks about multiverse. Which would be consistent with my theory of IX ≈ SoQ hehe.
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Ok so talking it out with some other people... it might have gotten retconned, yea.
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So what does that mean? There are multiple trees out there? I think I heard a theory about that
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It just means that this was the explanation of SoQ before the functions of Leaves and the Tree was properly conceptualized.
Which makes sense since the “universes” within SoQ are explicitly not IT-sized. It also contradicts Otto’s statement of SoQ and IT being the only things in the universe.
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