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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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what calc vro
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skaracabaz upscale 
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I’d be fine just using this. Granted only Generals have a right to scale to Ravagers without further elaboration thanks to Welt’s line.
Weaker characters? 4-A Gnaw stings can clutch
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such a pain lmao
Dhil, blade and maybe if you wanna stretch it enough yanqing would also qualify for 3-C then. can knock yanqing tho he kinda makes everything funky.
flame reaver idm being comparable to dhil just a khaslana upscale anyway whos stronger than flameweaver in ampho? yea most cast gonna go down to 4-A atp
Dhil, blade and maybe if you wanna stretch it enough yanqing would also qualify for 3-C then. can knock yanqing tho he kinda makes everything funky.
flame reaver idm being comparable to dhil just a khaslana upscale anyway whos stronger than flameweaver in ampho? yea most cast gonna go down to 4-A atp
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Stronger than Flamereaver in Amphoreus?flame reaver idm being comparable to dhil just a khaslana upscale anyway whos stronger than flameweaver in ampho? yea most cast gonna go down to 4-A atp
I think unironically Dawnmaker Phainon is the only one whos stronger?
If you wanna do cringe chainscaling you can use the fact Phainon fought together with DH, TB, Hyacine etc against Aquila to say they scale to him. But that doesn’t work since Dan Heng needed DHIL to fight a losing battle against Flame reaver.
Screwlum could arguably be above him since he can restrain him from outside the scepter and refers to flame reaver as just some ruffian. Which would extend to Herta… but that’s hax or I’m remembering the scene wrong
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But a Screwlum upscale is a Herta/Lygus upscale (btw the Screwlum moment I’m referring to is really early into 3.4’s story)
Which would beg the next question if that’s valid.
Should TB and Hysilens keep their scaling to Lygus? Given they targeted his weak spot and sent a remembrance zip bomb in his head instead of just beating him up conventionally
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Ngl i didnt remember them attacking a weak spot you might have to show me again
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Although they still fought Lygus and his black tide monsters off before hand in lrder to figure out that weak point.
So 3-C TB / general cast could start from this point onwards.
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Well can’t we just cope and say Hysilens is stronger than other heirs? (Besides Dawnmaker Phainon)
She did single handedly send Nikador packing before becoming Demigod single handedly and gets pretty little screen time while the heirs needed to Jump every Titan they fought.
Idk man HSR encourages circular chainscaling
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Can update the list again, I wanna have a good view of where the BS chainscalings might arise
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Kk so no one except acheron and xienshou generals and lord ravengers can destroy asdana so the calc literally only targets them and dhil (which goes to blade kafka and flame weaver). Everyone else has no calc unless you wanna use le garde’s 3-B bug calc but then everyone becomes 3-B
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I saw something about 4-A?
Interesting development...
Interesting development...
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its... a lot
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Why Xianzhou generals? They're not even Emanators. They just have Emanator summons.
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Why is acheron an emanator? she obviously gets her emanator power from a blade!
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Welt says generals are in no way inferior to Ravagers.
Ravagers and Generals commonly fight too. Phantylia folding JY is cause she was boosted by the Arbor.
At the very least their avatars like Lightning lord would be Ravager level
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Her.. blade..!? Blade upscale
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Soooo who is getting 3-C now?
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To save the verse… some must be nuked…
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Huh? Where did 3-B go?Phantylia jingyuan dhil blade kafka zephyro ig
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The calc for 3-B was based on thr sceptor destroying a galaxy in a nano/micro second we legit need an entirely new calc for asdana destruction GBE and even then we dont know if like 80% of the cast scales. Unless ofc we use le garde’s bug calc
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Well if we accept any emanator > highest pathstrider feat i guess all emanators can be 3-C off dhil harming phantylia (“B-But hes long’s power incarnate” I DONT CARE) it doesnt really become a problem until flame weaver and lygus but we could just remove hysilens and tb scaling to lygus since they attacked a weak point like jack mentioned
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They’d have to directly scale to Acheron… which idk who does now that I think about it.
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Thats the issue with the speed calc aswell
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No one, Acheron’s like a Top 5 emanator
Narratively Zephyro is obv gonna be her match but we can’t use that until they actually get to fight or more statements.
So that’s cooked.
Maybe Star of Eden’s attack speed can scale if we really stretch it via Acheron comparing it to Naught (very shaky ground)
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Actually I wanted to bring this up but like, Phantilya’s first phase is her jobbing with just Abundance powers. Her second phase is her switching to Destruction and her last phase is her using both. In the boss fight, Jing Yuan like gets hit and then asks Dan Heng to help him so both of them may actually downscale from Lord Ravagers under normal circumstances.
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Im fine with this cus it also upscales zephyro
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I wanna say this is one of those anime tropes where a character gets knocked back and says “now ___” or in jingyuan’s case “you take it from here” then we see dhil use a special attack which does damage phantylia and we do know jingyuan continued fighting an even stronger phantylia after this so yea
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Not only Zephyro but the HI3 cast would be able to benefit from Star of Eden’s attack speed thanks to Mei and Durandal fighting the Herrscher of Rimestar + Kevin beating the Herrscher of Stars during the previous era. Sirin with 6 gems back in 2E generally treated Star of Eden like a joke too.
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