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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

Mbpoops said:
Imo “emanator level” is more of a status if anything. The power of an emanator isnt exclusive to emanators a pathstrider can get up to the level to damage a emanator the only difference is emanators can draw directly from their aeon (which is the sole reason the scaling is ****** rn emanators lost their baseline 3-B scaling for no reason at all now we have l1C yanqing and yunli) zephyro being pushed to use his white hole against welt (stated to be equal and blew up the cosmos) just means welt is peak emanator level with SoE in terms of strength but hes still classified as a pathstrider. Im not falling for the acheron agenda.
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Your interpretation makes sense but the characters talk like Emanator is a power level even though we have Emanators of different strength and they can have different abilities and such. This is just like that Genshin god thing again.
Mbpoops said:
Now im being told march welt AND acheron didnt fight aventurine because they werent shown fighting in the end cutscene… im gonna feel like those fnaf children in fnaf3’s good ending when these scans are done
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lol what? Is there a CRT going on rn?
 
Mbpoops said:
another problem with emanators chain scaling to eachother
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Which is why i believe some keyword SOME (phantylia, dominicus, xienshou emanantor etc) should go back to 3-B BASELINE (i have to emphasize because some people dont understand baseline i guess) while others (zephyro, IT, others i cant remember) can stay l1c :P
 
Mbpoops said:
Which is why i believe some keyword SOME (phantylia, dominicus, xienshou emanantor etc) should go back to 3-B BASELINE (i have to emphasize because some people dont understand baseline i guess) while others (zephyro, IT, others i cant remember) can stay l1c :P
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Technically it’s literally impossible for any single character in the series to go below High 3-A.
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Yea. But it mostly depends on the infinite stairs thingy. Depending on the context of it, I could likely nuke every rating in the verse
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I genuienly just dont believe ues works like how its (ALLEGEDLY) being used here. Ues like in dragon ball is a lot more consistant cause not everyone scales based on ues but here we assume everyone is jist fighting at full powwr with their paths which would mean theres no baseline power rating for the ues (which would be like 10-C or even tier 11 because everything has imaginary energy) or that the baseline is just l1c and skott is l1c because he uses the ues which is dumb. At the very least if we use this dumb system delete the galaxy level justifications from the pages cause now it looks like we have tier 1 galaxies
 
Mbpoops said:
Tbf the verse cant be below tier 1 because of the sea of quanta but the character scaling is definetly questionable
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There’s like an authorial statement that explicitly confirms SoQ to be apart of Real Space alongside IT. Meaning they are both Low 2-C constructs.

Also, from what I’m told by some other honkai lore veterans, the 7 compacted statement supposedly refers to all of Real Space, meaning SoQ as well. So when it says it inherits 7 compacted dimensions, it’s literally just inheriting SoQ’s compacted dimensions (if it weren’t blatant enough). So that other statement about Real Space having 4 dimensions also re-confirms its Tier 2 size.

Also gonna have to make a distinction between Imaginary Space and Imaginary Subspace which ig means Cocoon can still technically vie for Low 1-A somehow since it also has recent statements about transcending space and time and shit. That still means Aeons are capped at High 3-A though:
Mbpoops said:
For kiana and only kiana. And i guess nanook
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Including Nanook. Heat death is like explicitly a Tier 3 feat lmfao.

Which just leaves the infinite stairs thingy. Though reading other scans associated in this particular blog, it does seem like bubble worlds in general abuse looping space or just processually expanding to appear infinite. So if it’s either of the two here, then High 3-A is nuked as well for anyone below Irontomb. So uh, if someone can confirm the exact context I’d really appreciate it (pls don’t force me to consume Hi3 content 🥺).
 
SuperNova55555 said:
There’s like an authorial statement that explicitly confirms SoQ to be apart of Real Space alongside IT. Meaning they are both Low 2-C constructs.
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Huh? Lowkey ive never heard of this but being apart of real soace shouldnt be an anti feat if the space is higher dimensional and significant in size
SuperNova55555 said:
Also, from what I’m told by some other honkai lore veterans, the 7 compacted statement supposedly refers to all of Real Space, meaning SoQ as well.
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I agree with all real space but from
My understanding from playing the dudu vn the compactified dimensions come from the ether anchor point because those were the dimensions tied in a knot while the soq is infinitely bigger than both the eap and the bubbles and the eap has infinite bubbles. And even if we say the soq has the compactified the dimensions it still qualifies for tier 1 because it contains and separates infinite bubble worlds and has its own time axis so it would be 4D + 1T
SuperNova55555 said:
So when it says it inherits 7 compacted dimensions, it’s literally just inheriting SoQ’s compacted dimensions (if it weren’t blatant enough). So that other statement about Real Space having 4 dimensions also re-confirms its Tier 2 size.
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I do agree real space (yes just not the real space of the hi3 verse bruh all real space of the tree) is 4D (istaroth would be 5D if this wasnt the case)
SuperNova55555 said:
Also gonna have to make a distinction between Imaginary Space and Imaginary Subspace which ig means Cocoon can still technically vie for Low 1-A somehow since it also has recent statements about transcending space and time and shit.
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Yes i agree because aeons are not apart of the imaginary singularity which is the origin of space and dimensions and the cocoon is stated to be the only singularity so aeons scaling to that because they are in img space is a nono for me.
SuperNova55555 said:
That still means Aeons are capped at High 3-A though:

Including Nanook. Heat death is like explicitly a Tier 3 feat lmfao.
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I would like to say im fine with kiana > aeons (ive been getting rage baited for weeks)
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Game: Explicitly tells you the dimensionality of a construct

You: Insert [random powerscaling jargon]
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It only tells us the dimensionality of the dudu bubble world and hi3 world (IT real space) not the entire soq it just says its 11 dimensional, it even says the dimensional and law inheritence varies depending on the world which are stabilized by the ether anchor point that has the compactified dimensions. Whats the proof of the soq refering to real space cause ive actually never seen it
 
Same guy who extreme diffed zephyo he was obviously just being dramatic to gas acheron
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Ok so they still had no way to do any damage to him. Thanks for clarifying though.
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So either he gets tired or they find an opening through some other means or by breaking the shield after the shield absorbs enough damage like i said. Again she literally thinks they can still beat him on their own.

Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
...How is it vibe scaling. Cornerstone is a portion of Emanator authority, his stone was broken so it was weaker. These are facts. Did you yourself not just state that Acheron intervened because the crew couldn't handle him? This doesn't reflect on her scaling at all. It simply shows he was too much for the AE which should be obvious based on them doing no damage to him.
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Yeah so quantify the weakening then instead of vibe scaling a random multiplier which is something we arent even allowed to do. What we know is that he still has enough power to threatened Acheron into transforming so this goes against your entire notion.

He was literally only “too much” for the AE using an attack he gambled EVERYTHING HE had into it. Meanwhile his normal capabilities did nothing against the express

Also stop treating it like the fighting like they got pure stomped from pure power output or stats. Its literally proving my point if he fills the need to rely on Fortified Wager to defend against the express

Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Yes but that power was born from a Charmony Festival. Did she direct that same gathered power to the AE?
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Yeah? The events all happened simultaneously .

Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
You see this is actually vibe scaling lol. Sunday being weakened was him dropping to Emanator tier. You're then assuming there must've been another unmentioned nerf somewhere without any evidence. all the things you brought up are just the things that dropped him to Emanator tier where he just has Dominicus. Again show me a single statement or whatever that says he dropped to Emanator tier and was then further weakened again before he fought the crew
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Again, showing a screenshot of a recap saying he goes from Nigh Aeon to Emanator is NOT a defeater for anything. For this to EVER work is for you to say Emanators are not considered Emanators IF they are weakened, which is asinine to claim.

He is factually still an Emanator. The recap is factually correct because he did go from Nigh Aeon to Emanator. This DOES not mean he didn’t get weakened considering every single context clues there is + old justifications used for 2.2 Dominicus. This still has more merit than whatever vibe scale multiplier you reasoned out of nowhere.

Just saying you cry wolf about Hoyoverse’s scaling, brings up 2 fights that had no scaling issues, gets fed several different explanations for the 2 fights, and then actively tries to extrapolate a reasoning for why it doesnt make sense for shit and giggles. Like I agree Hoyo’s scaling is ass but this one ain’t it chief.
 
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