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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

TheGreatJedi13 said:
significant size only applies to tier 1 to low 1-A, afaik, because those things become irrelevant for 1-A

Due to the nature of 1-A, even the smallest size possible for 1-A will still be qualitatively superior to low 1-A and below because it is not reducible in any way to be able to exist as low 1-A or below. Although the FAQ did state some possible ways to circumvent this
1-A is mostly not about size but quality, so whether it is infinite or not is irrelevant

though im pretty sure we used to have ways to allow low 1-C without significant size. but idk of those even apply anymore since those have become strict and relegated to just 1-A jumps
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This also true but a lot of FAQ and rules are to regulate the site not always to adhere to consistent logical defined standard methodology imo.
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
That's why they gave examples on what could and could not qualify and what works as anti-feat or what won't
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I know. I wasn't specifically referencing any one rule just how the site tends to function. It's unfortunately always equally nor fairly. But with limited personale and resources...I can see their perspective
 
Community_Gamer said:
This is correct however it's a level of assumption that is basically required for power scaling to even function in the way it does. I agree that being a 5-D being doesn't necessarily mean you can destroy a 5-D universe let alone an infinite one. But being of that scale would more infinitely transcend a 4-D realm. The nature of their existence would be some large in magnitude we could conceptualize or comprehend it as there's no comparison.

So yes that 5-D being can maybe tear a sheet of 5-D paper and that's it but both paper and their existence wouldn't even register our existence.

Also I don't think you meant what you said with a paper analogy because a 2-D paper doesn't exist in our reality because it would lack depth. A better example might be a shadow (which isn't even 2-D but the closest example). If you know the Cave Allegory then that sums it up.

In the same that every 7-D atom is immeasurably greater than a 6-D atom, and every 6-D atom is immeasurably greater than a 5-D atom.

Only difference is that the distance between Infinite Dimensional and Outerversal is greater than 1-D and Infinite Dimensions (High Hyperversal).

I think real distinction why exist in a 1-A realm in inherently grants 1-A status is because of nature of the realm itself. These realms aren't mathematical or geometric in terms of their existence but archetypal, conceptual, or ideological in nature. They have no space or time to move in because they are beyond them. Being that exist in geometric dimensions require space and/or time exist in the way they do. So logically they cannot exist in realm entirely devoid or in this case beyond the idea of it.


Hopefully you understand what I meant. I'm equating existing in 1-A realms to those of dimensions but expolating the realm of those who exist in either one.
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There is not really any inherent greatness predicable via being higher-dimensional.

You extend into an additional orthogonal direction, but that’s… it. You extend the same “size” into the lower dimensions as its inhabitants do as well. You merely have an additional axis where you can extend your body into. But, if you were to interact with the lower dimensions, you only do so by lower-dimensional slices; making the extension of your body into a higher dimension completely meaningless in turn.

Community_Gamer said:
Also I don't think you meant what you said with a paper analogy because a 2-D paper doesn't exist in our reality because it would lack depth. A better example might be a shadow (which isn't even 2-D but the closest example). If you know the Cave Allegory then that sums it up.
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I am aware of this. But fiction tends to appeal to a Flatland-esque view of dimensionality, so we use analogies as corresponding to that.
 
Mbpoops said:
No one destroyed the imaginary tree in hsr only the real space which would be 2-A at most.
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and why am i the one with negative tracking when i say this as if i didnt explain billion times that this is exactly where are all leaves and branches at
 
poops: “aeons destroyed real space”
you: “omg wow positive tracking”
me: “aeons destroyed physical realm of tree (LITERALLY REAL SPACE)
you: “negative tracking”

okay
 
PedjaTarzan said:
poops: “aeons destroyed real space”
you: “omg wow positive tracking”
me: “aeons destroyed physical realm of tree (LITERALLY REAL SPACE)
you: “negative tracking”

okay
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No, you were talking about the fact that the totality of branches and leaves are 2-A, which is what I agree with. But what is irrelevant to the rating here is whether or not Aeons scale to the whole thing or not.
 
SuperNova55555 said:
No, you were talking about the fact that the totality of branches and leaves are 2-A, which is what I agree with. But what is irrelevant to the rating here is whether or not Aeons scale to the whole thing or not.
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Mbpoops said:
No one destroyed the imaginary tree in hsr only the real space which would be 2-A at most.
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and why am i the one with negative tracking when i say this as if i didnt explain billion times that this is exactly where are all leaves and branches at
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i. literally. quoted. person. who. said. aeons. destroyed. REAL. SPACE. to. what. you. said. its. positive. tracking. the. same. shit. ive. been. talking. about. 100. times.
Its like debating if phainon animated short is real or not💔 💔 💔
and for all i care i dont see branch being below 2-A when its the same shit that has genshin sized leafs inside it while having infinite amounts of them.
AND for all i care IX and HooH literally cannot be capped at one branch for rest i honestly wont bother
 
PedjaTarzan said:
i. literally. quoted. person. who. said. aeons. destroyed. REAL. SPACE. to. what. you. said. its. positive. tracking. the. same. shit. ive. been. talking. about. 100. times.
Its like debating if phainon animated short is real or not💔 💔 💔
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Nova caught negative tracking in the big 2026 💔

But seriously, quote the “at most” part. Like. You’ve heard my stance on this dozens of times. It’s a minuscule relation to make that I agree with all branches being 2-A, but Aeons only 2-C.

PedjaTarzan said:
and for all i care i dont see branch being below 2-A when its the same shit that has genshin sized leafs inside it while having infinite amounts of them.
AND for all i care IX and HooH literally cannot be capped at one branch for rest i honestly wont bother
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Same IX who is explicitly bound by the theory of four apocalypses? Ya know, the one with the various possible futures and branches?
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Nova caught negative tracking in the big 2026 💔

But seriously, quote the “at most” part. Like. You’ve heard my stance on this dozens of times. It’s a minuscule relation to make that I agree with all branches being 2-A, but Aeons only 2-C.
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no what i said now is that singular branch can be 2-A too, while all of them is either also 2-A, insignificant 5-D(CRINGE) or 5-D
SuperNova55555 said:
Same IX who is explicitly bound by the theory of four apocalypses? Ya know, the one with the various possible futures and branches?
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this apples to all paths because if destruction comes on top this happens:
The birth of the universe is a mistake. If civilization is a cancer emerging quietly from the boundless stars, then war is the only common language known to all intelligent life.
To correct this mistake and to clean up this tainted universe, Nanook became the avatar of entropy and ascended to godhood while denying all gods.
Destruction is not a process, but the outcome. On the path THEY promised, all Paths and Aeons will terminate in the heat death of the universe.
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So yeah the same HooH thats merged with entire tree, and SoQ which is the opposite side of complete universe (IT+SoQ) dies at the end of universe if nanook wins
 
PedjaTarzan said:
no what i said now is that singular branch can be 2-A too, while all of them is either also 2-A, insignificant 5-D(CRINGE) or 5-D
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I guess you’d have to prove there exist infinite superimposed states or possibilities or wtvr, which I’m really not sure there is any proof for that.

But if that were the case, IT would js get upgraded to High 1-B, since such MWI are infinite-dimensional.

PedjaTarzan said:
this apples to all paths because if destruction comes on top this happens:
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Yeaaaa so, which part of this isn’t an immediate defeater to your whole shtick?
 
SuperNova55555 said:
I guess you’d have to prove there exist infinite superimposed states or possibilities or wtvr, which I’m really not sure there is any proof for that.
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what do you mean by this
SuperNova55555 said:
Yeaaaa so, which part of this isn’t an immediate defeater to your whole shtick?
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the ones where aeons are not capped to a single branch, which like i said i wont argue since i dont wanna bother myself with that
 
Mbpoops said:
im actually curious how the entirety of project stigma just became unusable i havent taken the time to find the thread
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Cause it was stated to be higher dimension, that's it, that's the entire argument when higher dimension is literally treated as 1-A back then for Honkaiverse
 
Voidnether said:
Ohma Zio when you tell him to use all of the Ridewatch abilities (bro ended up the same as Yhwach where he barely gaf about using the Sternritter's abilities other than Almighty lol)
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i still refuse to believe anyone in bleach is over tier 4.... let alone tier 3.. but wtv
 
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