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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

I would think inf NEP layers means it probably ends in an incon at absolute worst and just a blatant win at best, ain't nobody dealing with that. Maybe if a character has potent enough sealing that he can't resist similar (or superior) to what he did to Graham's source but that's about it. Did that L1C thread get accepted alr?
 
I would think inf NEP layers means it probably ends in an incon at absolute worst and just a blatant win at best, ain't nobody dealing with that. Maybe if a character has potent enough sealing that he can't resist similar (or superior) to what he did to Graham's source but that's about it. Did that L1C thread get accepted alr?
Pre Graham annihilation key tho

And yes it already get accepted.
 
Wouldn't pre Graham annihilation still have the ability to interact with inf layers of NEP 2 regardless via MEOCD/Venuz? I still think its largely the same, just that his source doesn't have the NEP hax now, but well...he still does have potent HGR so idk
Just interaction, it is not the same lol.

Doesn't Aeon also have HGR?
 
Just interaction, it is not the same lol.
Yeah, I guess it isn't the same since it's not a defensive tool now, but my point is that he could still pretty much one shot IX who is the only character with NEP 2 and has no layers of it, hell even if they did it wouldn't change anything afaik at least
Doesn't Aeon also have HGR?
I think so, but doesn't Anos have layers of HGR negation anyways?
 
They don’t. But I haven’t gone around to removing the chainscaling yet.

Aeons also dont scale to it
I honestly find the justifications of Emanators being that high iffy af when they were still 12D. Like being powered by a 5D-11D powersource ain't making you tier 1, neither is an avatar of a tier 1 being gonna scale to their true self (looking at the Arbiter Generals). Irontomb and Cyrene being mentioned in the Justifications is hilarious when we have direct statements of both being above regular Emanators.

Realistically, only Sunday, Phainon, Cyrene, Irontomb, and Zephyro scale that high


Why do the Aeons not scale tho?
 
I honestly find the justifications of Emanators being that high iffy af when they were still 12D. Like being powered by a 5D-11D powersource ain't making you tier 1, neither is an avatar of a tier 1 being gonna scale to their true self (looking at the Arbiter Generals). Irontomb and Cyrene being mentioned in the Justifications is hilarious when we have direct statements of both being above regular Emanators.
Cyrene was never stated to be above regular emanator, in fact her regular emanator form is practically non existent bcs on top of being pure children she has all coreflames with her. In any case they all scale from UES that lord ravagers directly got from having honkai energy on top of emanator chain scaling that exists for over a year now since they are all under one tier "emanator" so as long as someone isnt directly stated to be above them being stronger/weaker emanator wont drop you or put you gazillion tiers away from others
 
Cyrene was never stated to be above regular emanator, in fact her regular emanator form is practically non existent bcs on top of being pure children she has all coreflames with her. In any case they all scale from UES that lord ravagers directly got from having honkai energy on top of emanator chain scaling that exists for over a year now since they are all under one tier "emanator" so as long as someone isnt directly stated to be above them being stronger/weaker emanator wont drop you or put you gazillion tiers away from others
I'm referring to Herta's statement of Cyrene walking deeper in the Path of Remembrace than everyone else did. That and she is on par with Irontomb

Irontomb is outright stated to be above other Emanators in his own profile. No one scales to him, affecting Nous except for Cyrene
 
I'm referring to Herta's statement of Cyrene walking deeper in the Path of Remembrace than everyone else did.
that doesnt rly have to do with anything being above emanators, since acheron also walked deepest in path of nihility
That and she is on par with Irontomb
thats for cyrene after fuli gazed at her no? we already index her above emanators and that key has its own feat of re creating entire universe and beating irontomb so that key is above emanators no problem, the other one about freezing cosmos is just cyrene without amps from Fuli
Irontomb is outright stated to be above other Emanators in his own profile. No one scales to him, affecting Nous except for Cyrene
and no one does? i mean who else scales beside entire amped keys heirs and cyrene herself
 
im interested in how will the terminology for Universe being imaginary tree get twisted to just one branch
You gave me the scan yourself bub
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Back up folks.
 
that doesnt rly have to do with anything being above emanators, since acheron also walked deepest in path of nihility

thats for cyrene after fuli gazed at her no? we already index her above emanators and that key has its own feat of re creating entire universe and beating irontomb so that key is above emanators no problem, the other one about freezing cosmos is just cyrene without amps from Fuli

and no one does? i mean who else scales beside entire amped keys heirs and cyrene herself
I might have misunderstood stuff, yeah

Then how exactly did we get tier 1 Emanators lol
 
I'm referring to Herta's statement of Cyrene walking deeper in the Path of Remembrace than everyone else did. That and she is on par with Irontomb

Irontomb is outright stated to be above other Emanators in his own profile. No one scales to him, affecting Nous except for Cyrene
The Irontomb and Cyrene mentioned are Normal Cyrene and Incomplete Irontomb.
 

zandar says that he touched universe border and then above it says "imaginary tree theory" so was he actually lying about universe being imaginary tree or
🤔
 
"entire universe" = branch, KEK 😂 😭
Do you even know what Branches are? They’re the copies of the same universe across different timelines. Branches are universes.

Also, this is beyond negative reading comprehension. It’s like you’re misreading the scan at a level so bad that it would genuinely baffle me if you aren’t being ironic.
 
Tbf, it's outright stated "physical plane"
And physical plane can't be refer to totallity of imaginary tree structure.

Unrivalled tree they say when some random newborn babybot obliterated them💔 (they don't)
 
Do you even know what Branches are? They’re the copies of the same universe across different timelines. Branches are universes.
so are leaf worlds no? i mean they can spread across 93 light years and even trillions if we use GGZ
Also, this is beyond negative reading comprehension. It’s like you’re misreading the scan at a level so bad that it would genuinely baffle me if you aren’t being ironic.
get me all scans that contradict the term of universe being imaginary tree and then we can talk. literally
just make sure u nuke the terminology for the verse and then u can downgrade it
i think i pretty much said that physical realm always refers to branches and leaves, meanwhile path space is the higher realm of the tree which you guessed it, irontomb did not destroy upon obliterating leaves and branch(es)
 
Tbf, it's outright stated "physical plane"
And physical plane can't be refer to totallity of imaginary tree structure.
and i never said irontomb completely obliterates imaginary tree, otherwise path space would be nuked completely, its not too hard to understand that physical plane of Universe would refer to leaf worlds and branches, we quite literally see that on screen too. otherwise the "galaxy" turning dim might just be one genuine galaxy lol (Phainon>Irontomb?)
Unrivalled tree they say when some random newborn babybot obliterated them💔 (they don't)
terminology is afraid of Hoyo supporters/opps
 
and i never said irontomb completely obliterates imaginary tree, otherwise path space would be nuked completely, its not too hard to understand that physical plane of Universe would refer to leaf worlds and branches, we quite literally see that on screen too. otherwise the "galaxy" turning dim might just be one genuine galaxy lol (Phainon>Irontomb?)

terminology is afraid of Hoyo supporters/opps
You guys literally put the whole reason irontomb and Zephyro nuking the whole imaginary tree in their ap section profile lmao...
 
so are leaf worlds no? i mean they can spread across 93 light years and even trillions if we use GGZ
Leaf worlds are star clusters. They can vary in size but they’re all part of the same Timeline (Branch).

i think i pretty much said that physical realm always refers to branches and leaves
Right. The same physical realm called the “entire universe”.

You realize that the same word can mean different things, right? It’s all based on the context. But the supporters here don’t seem to care about any holistic meanings of the terms used, just like those Lovecraft scalers. It doesn’t matter, though. I’ll just remove it like I did with literally everything else.
 
You guys literally put the whole reason irontomb and Zephyro nuking the whole imaginary tree in their ap section profile lmao...
i didnt wrote shit 💔 , tho its also hsr just putting universe as both physical plane, path space and the complete universe which is this:
Everything in the universe is bound by the prison of Existence, constrained by their body and mind and blinded by the world's superficial appearance. Even the most intelligent beings cannot comprehend this. Matter, order, logic, and life... Everything that makes up "reality" is but one side of the coin. On the opposite side, of equal entropy, there exists "nihility." The two balance each other to create the complete universe.
tho you should just downgrade welt and zephyro from nuking imaginary tree to nuking the physical plane, same with irontomb, as aeons are only one who should be directly low 1-C, Irontomb you can argue using Khaslana as his core who at his peak harmed nanook.
 
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