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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

PedjaTarzan said:
if infinite 4D space called space time is continental then on god rupturing cosmos is just 3-C according to mother star meaning irontomb is 3-C and cannot solo hi3!!!!!!
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Irontomb is perfectly fine for Low 1-C. But unlike this *****, Irontomb explicitly destroys all the leaves/whole tree.

Bubble Universes are explicitly not infinite, and this one is the european continent.

Mbpoops said:
Its stated to be a universe by the devs
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Bubble Universe. The name means nothing.
 
Super_Nova said:
Irontomb is perfectly fine for Low 1-C. But unlike this *****, Irontomb explicitly destroys all the leaves/whole tree.

Bubble Universes are explicitly not infinite, and this one is the european continent.


Bubble Universe. The name means nothing.
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one is named bubble universe other is just named continent of europe so yall both NAME SCALING. anyway she can just destroy all bubble worlds which mirror leaf world in size, which includes those like GGZ with trillions of LY in size and genshin with 93 one.
 
i didnt read durandal VN, but shes pretty much S rank there too, which would still make her low 1-C scaling from TB anyway
 
There are mentions of the Omnipotence Paradox stuff within Honkai Impact and that the creators of Perception just do not care about those kind of contradictions/paradoxes. However, I have NO IDEA where the likes of the Shus are in the scaling or if they are based on Honkai Energy... So I'll leave that to the experts.
 
PedjaTarzan said:
one is named bubble universe other is just named continent of europe so yall both NAME SCALING. anyway she can just destroy all bubble worlds which mirror leaf world in size, which includes those like GGZ with trillions of LY in size and genshin with 93 one.
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The scans/profile always mention that the space-time she is is just the “bubble universe”.

I’m very sus on these scans. Seem heavily out of context.
 
Super_Nova said:
The scans always mention that the space-time she is is just the “bubble universe”.
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she carries the bubble universe as her armor, which is elaborated on her profile
Super_Nova said:
I’m very sus on these scans. Seem heavily out of context.
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They dont, she can easily obliterate the bubble universe named europe, and she can easily obliterate ether anchors which are higher dimensional realm, but she would scale to low 1-C due to low 1-C tb being S rank anyway. and shes the strongest amongst S Ranks.
 
The_2nd_Existential_Seed said:
There are mentions of the Omnipotence Paradox stuff within Honkai Impact and that the creators of Perception just do not care about those kind of contradictions/paradoxes. However, I have NO IDEA where the likes of the Shus are in the scaling or if they are based on Honkai Energy... So I'll leave that to the experts.
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Wait which one
 
The_2nd_Existential_Seed said:
There are mentions of the Omnipotence Paradox stuff within Honkai Impact and that the creators of Perception just do not care about those kind of contradictions/paradoxes. However, I have NO IDEA where the likes of the Shus are in the scaling or if they are based on Honkai Energy... So I'll leave that to the experts.
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all i know is that one of Shus Songque is compared to herrschers, as for Leylah shes vaguely above Vita for offing her by restraining her out of sudden. also what are these paradox stuff about?
 
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Hundred Years of Solitary Shadow/Dialogue

“Me”: Meow~ Meowww~ … … Employee: Excuse me, but it’s closing time. “Me”: Oh, is it that late already? Sorry. Employee: No worries, you’re always welcome back. Property Agent: So, are you interested in this house? “Me”: … Property Agent: Well, take this brochure anyway, would you? Consider it a...
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Here, specifically:

Perception: I’m a tool of the Creator; hence, my capabilities should know no bounds, just like the power of those who, in the name of Shus, traversed the world, ultimately dividing it into heaven and hell.

Coralie: …?

Coralie: Let’s put aside talk of that heaven and hell for now.

Coralie: “Can God create a stone so heavy, even he himself can’t lift it?” …are you trying to give me a live demonstration?

Perception: This, I trust, is readily comprehensible, correct?

Perception: As the Creator’s tool, inevitably, my omnipotence is constrained by rules. In contrast, those in the name of Shus can always stand above them.

Perception: Why, they could even create rules like…

Perception: “In this world, all the stones created by me but I cannot lift are, in fact, stones I may lift.”

Coralie: It’s just wordplay.

Coralie: So all in all, you believe that in order to activate the device there, I must seek the assistance of the Shus you mentioned. But seriously, did you really need to talk in circles like that?

Perception: It’s necessary. As a tool, within reasonable limits, I will fulfill your requests to the letter.

Perception: However, due to the precision required, when making requests, please… proceed with caution.

Perception: We don’t want regrets due to unclear expressions, do we?

This is what I've referring to. I watched the official version to see if the website is lying about this, and it's not, it's the exact same thing word for word.
 
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Yet another Hoyoverse cosmology downgrade

I ask that no one derail this thread, whether with memes, complaining about it, or anything else. My core problem with this is that: To begin with, while I think this has already been addressed in the previous downgrade, dimensions from the fourth onward are implicitly finite inverse...
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PedjaTarzan said:
They dont, she can easily obliterate the bubble universe named europe, and she can easily obliterate ether anchors which are higher dimensional realm, but she would scale to low 1-C due to low 1-C tb being S rank anyway. and shes the strongest amongst S Ranks.
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I’m saying the former is not a L1C feat is the problem. The Anchor can be higher-D but it doesn’t qualify for Low 1-C if the Higher-D isn’t infinite. Being a realm or not means nothing here.

And for the second point, what scaling chain makes her L1C again?
 
Super_Nova said:
I’m saying the former is not a L1C feat is the problem. The Anchor can be higher-D but it doesn’t qualify for Low 1-C if the Higher-D isn’t infinite. Being a realm or not means nothing here.
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I mean you quite literally assumed bubble world is finite bcs its called "continent of europe" despite same profile stating bubble worlds are infinite 4D realms, thats how ass hi3 profiles are 😭
Super_Nova said:
And for the second point, what scaling chain makes her L1C again?
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Being S rank, same one which TB is. which only problem i have is that idk if Kid Dudu is stated to be S rank, if not then just cap her at low 2-C for destroying bubble worlds. theres plenty of proof that bubbles can go from non universal sized to the size of universe according to ch 32-33 explanation.
 
PedjaTarzan said:
I mean you quite literally assumed bubble world is finite bcs its called "continent of europe" despite same profile stating bubble worlds are infinite 4D realms, thats how ass hi3 profiles are
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No they’re literally stated to be finite. Also. Why do I care what the profile claims, when that’s what I’m debunking.

PedjaTarzan said:
Being S rank, same one which TB is. which only problem i have is that idk if Kid Dudu is stated to be S rank, if not then just cap her at low 2-C for destroying bubble worlds. theres plenty of proof that bubbles can go from non universal sized to the size of universe according to ch 32-33 explanation.
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Nono. I’m asking what gets her to L1C by scaling to TB. Like. What gets TB themselves to L1C
 
Super_Nova said:
Yea. Why do Emanators get Low 1-C?
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well outside welt zephyro and cyrene being able to affect IT.
Honkai Energy UES comes from this. and we have welt who actually had to split entire SoQ apart from reality (leaf worlds) to make sure Kevin doesnt escape. (ignore the same pic 3 times im getting utterly @!$@! by imgur and my internet) + bronya destroying theather of domination which is low 1-C for having more dimensions than reality, and its also infinite.
Emanators like lord ravagers have UES on top of Zephyro being one thats able to destroy cosmos, and Irontomb which is above scepters of which we have ones that can destroy half of universe. + they have honkai energy, and theres also planned crt to make Imaginary Energy=Honkai energy so that will solidify ues even more.
 
PedjaTarzan said:
well outside welt zephyro and cyrene being able to affect IT.
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Normal emanators won’t scale to these. Zephyro’s is a dual-feat alongside Welt (which he can’t do by himself) and Cyrene is Cyrene.

PedjaTarzan said:
and we have welt who actually had to split entire SoQ apart from reality (leaf worlds)
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You can separate a Tier 2 realm from a Low 1-C realm without needing to scale to Low 1-C, since what you’re separating isn’t Low 1-C sized.

PedjaTarzan said:
bronya destroying theather of domination which is low 1-C for having more dimensions than reality, and its also infinite.
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L2-C at best.
PedjaTarzan said:
Emanators like lord ravagers have UES on top of Zephyro being one thats able to destroy cosmos, and Irontomb which is above scepters of which we have ones that can destroy half of universe.
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Alr explained Zephyro. The other one is the totality of all Scepters, which noone scales to aside from Nigh-Aeons.
 
Super_Nova said:
Normal emanators won’t scale to these. Zephyro’s is a dual-feat alongside Welt (which he can’t do by himself) and Cyrene is Cyrene.
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someone finally understands this thank god
Super_Nova said:
You can separate a Tier 2 realm from a Low 1-C realm without needing to scale to Low 1-C, since what you’re separating isn’t Low 1-C sized.
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yeah but statement was that he was separating low 1-C realm from low 2-C one, or is that basically same stuff?
Super_Nova said:
L2-C at best.
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not against it
Super_Nova said:
Alr explained Zephyro. The other one is the totality of all Scepters, which noone scales to aside from Nigh-Aeons.
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honestly idk what to say about this, since irontomb profile implies he >scepters, which can empower rubert do destroy half the universe. so i think crt about this is needed.
 
StalkerCh said:
Nova I have a question to you, it may sound out of context but, do our real life space time continuum scale to low2C? Considering it is expanding wouldnt that mean it is not infinite? And doesnt low2C require infinitely large dimensional axis?
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I mean, first of all, you don't need infinite size for Low 2-C; just 93 billion lightyears worth of length. And also space expanding doesn't actually mean space itself isn't infinite since space actually just expands into itself rather than some notion of outside "void".
 
SuperNova55555 said:
I mean, first of all, you don't need infinite size for Low 2-C; just 93 billion lightyears worth of length. And also space expanding doesn't actually mean space itself isn't infinite since space actually just expands into itself rather than some notion of outside "void".
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Can you scale king von next
 
SuperNova55555 said:
I mean, first of all, you don't need infinite size for Low 2-C; just 93 billion lightyears worth of length. And also space expanding doesn't actually mean space itself isn't infinite since space actually just expands into itself rather than some notion of outside "void".
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Well considering there is finite age of universe we can say temporal dimension does not have infinite lenght, which should aslo imply universe itself do not have infinite light year long of dimension.
So simply, if we describe a universe as constantly expanding, X billion years old 4 dimensional construct, we can consider it as Low2C object?
 
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