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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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Collective Unconscious Standardization Project
Hey everyone, I wanted to start working on a long-term project to create a comprehensive blog standardizing how we interpret the Collective Unconscious (CU) in fiction (on this wiki at least), particularly regarding its Tier 1 applications. Given how nebulous this topic can be - especially with...
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Goat.1-A Sunday lolCollective Unconscious Standardization Project
Hey everyone, I wanted to start working on a long-term project to create a comprehensive blog standardizing how we interpret the Collective Unconscious (CU) in fiction (on this wiki at least), particularly regarding its Tier 1 applications. Given how nebulous this topic can be - especially with...vsbattles.com
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What tier would Dark March 7th eating Amphoreus be?
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Low 2-C, or well 1-B cause Irontomb
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Are we taking that literally with ZERO context?
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A battle between HoYo's favorite poster children (Star Rail VS Impact 3rd) [0-0-0]
Phainon/Khaslana, Prisoner of Flames Key: Lord Ravager VS Kiana Kaslana, Goddess of Earth Key: Herrscher of Flamescion Battle Conditions: Standard Battle Assumptions Both are at 1-B Speed is Equalized Win by K.O Battle takes place in the Theater of Domination Phainon: 0 {} Kiana: 0 {}...
It's here at last.
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Screwllum:
Time is short, so I’ll explain using concepts you’re familiar with.
The world known as Amphoreus is actually an experimental ground created by the Irontomb for its own self-simulating growth.
In this hidden star system, it endlessly repeats the process of re-creation, seeking a solution for annihilating the Path of Erudition.
For certain reasons, this experiment once fell into a long stagnation.
But now, the process has resumed.
If no effective interference occurs, prediction: in 14 system hours, the Irontomb will complete its self-coronation and initiate a plan to destroy the Path of Erudition.
Someone is orchestrating all of this from behind the scenes — an observer named Lygus. It’s suspected that he is the administrator of the Sceptre System.
Time is short, so I’ll explain using concepts you’re familiar with.
The world known as Amphoreus is actually an experimental ground created by the Irontomb for its own self-simulating growth.
In this hidden star system, it endlessly repeats the process of re-creation, seeking a solution for annihilating the Path of Erudition.
For certain reasons, this experiment once fell into a long stagnation.
But now, the process has resumed.
If no effective interference occurs, prediction: in 14 system hours, the Irontomb will complete its self-coronation and initiate a plan to destroy the Path of Erudition.
Someone is orchestrating all of this from behind the scenes — an observer named Lygus. It’s suspected that he is the administrator of the Sceptre System.
Betrayed the Astral Express, likely working with Lygus (?) but she helped us in the end to stop Irontomb anyway
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shes just horsing around
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screwllum just went and said uhh yeah so emanators of destruciton can jusg fckass destroy concepts with power of deatruction why not
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Makes sense
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Ngl if it was me I'd just let zandar do whatever the hell he wants, that aeon is his creation in the first place anyway. First ever person to touch imaginary tree and understand the concept behind primum mobile, yeah
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What upsets me is that herta nor screwy try to actually challenge his argument. He saw firsthand the consequence Nous had on this universe and regret it so much he defied death just to undo it. His actions are extreme because he’s in an extreme situation.
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i mean yea he kills nous and irontomb destroys the universe and then end of plot of hsr, which obviously should not happen so yea its kinda sad on that part
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i peered into the spoilers of 3.5 cuz i wont be able to play story for now
mf is responsible for the creation of an aeon that is responsible for thr way paths and people who follow the paths function, without it it would be a mess
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This patch was absolute peak.
So since this is only one of Zander’s bodies, do they plan on having us confront the rest? Are they all doing their own experiments to end Nous or is just specifically Lygus?
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Lygus best amphoreus character
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If Dr. Ratio knew what Lygus was doing, he'd join him instantly 100%
Also Caenis is a ***** but looking at Cerydra's murder-happy actions, her hatred of Chrysos Heirs was justified, at least back then.
Based on the conversation between Herta and Cyrene, Cyrene has Type 9 Immortality and Mid-Godly Regeneration (as long as Trailblazer is alive and/or remembers her).
Also Caenis is a ***** but looking at Cerydra's murder-happy actions, her hatred of Chrysos Heirs was justified, at least back then.
Based on the conversation between Herta and Cyrene, Cyrene has Type 9 Immortality and Mid-Godly Regeneration (as long as Trailblazer is alive and/or remembers her).
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I'm calling it for High-Godly stuff tbh
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I don't recall him saying that?
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Well, that's not quite it. Erudition is the ability to perceive and understand information aka knowledge. It's through knowledge or Erudition that Paths were discovered by humanity. But that interpretation itself is flawed, but Paths are independent concepts created from the Imaginary. The Imaginary is formed through the collective unconscious of sentient life; therefore, it would exist with or without Zandar creating Nous. Nous didn't create the Erudition, nor did Zandar. Homie needs to pipe down because he got clapped by his own experiments and two rookie geniuses.
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Tbh, Erudition is more of like the ability to calculate and extrapolate anything if everything given Zandar's only weakness is like forcing him to understand infinite information even if Nous is capable of that
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They don't have to, nor is this an ideological battle for them. Its purely about ethics for them. Even if Zandar is correct, it still requires sacrificing all of existence for the possibility that beings might be reborn in a new universe without Paths and Aeons. However, sentient life is the reason for the existence of Paths and Aeons so that's illogical from the get-go. Also, there's no guarantee that any new universe will miraculously be born when Paths and Aeons cease to exist.
TLDR: Zandar is a terrorist and we don't negotiate with terrorists.
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I think what I said is just a far broader and encompassing version of your statement, so there's no contradiction here.
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Not in the most literal sense, but the fact destroying everything related to the “concept” of erudition causes aeon to cease is still insane shit, esp with lygusnhyping irontomb as being able to onliterate erudition itself
basically permamently killing aeon and its path
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Honkai: Star Rail — Vandalism stuff
This CRT serves to fix any vandalism that has no CRTs attached to it, with additional justifications + scans. https://vsbattles.com/threads/wiki-vandalism-reports.163273/post-7235041 • Immortality (Types 2, 3) + Regeneration (Mid) So, this is an inherent trait that each and every...
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Therta preaching about ethics then praising polka kakamond in the very next sentence is very ironic. Which group is responsible for two universe wide wars? Which person is responsible for assassinating multiple geniuses for scientific discovery? Which group is responsible for turning people into literal monkeys? Which group allows a god to place limits on humanities boundless potential? the fact he rebukes all paths means he isn’t on the side of destruction of everything and everyone.
Also we don’t negotiate with terrorists? Truly ironic.
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Yeah here's the issue. If you clicked the dialogue explaining HOW Irontomb would accomplish this it was about destroying things and/or individuals tied to Erudition not the concept itself. So basically it'd trying to destroy every chair in existence rather than concept of a chair.
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Homie are you not aware as to why Polka assassinates certain geniuses? Its because of the Knowledge Singularity which Zandar eve talked about this quest. Luckily for Zandar he isn't trying to break the Singularity but essentially remove it as a concept via destroying Erudition. The reason why this is important is because anyone who goes beyond the Circle of Knowledge via surpassing the Knowledge Singularity will introduce chaotic elements and concepts into the universe leading it closer to Finality.
Also I wouldn't say Herta was praising Polka but threatening Zandar as well as utilizing her resources to her advantage. To each their own I suppose.
Also Zandar literally said he wanted destroy all of existence, all, Paths, and Aeons that way a world unbound by such concepts can be born. I don't know about you but some psycho egotistical geniuses are pretty bad but not multiversal genocidal terrorists bad (Maybe Ruan Mei is but I don't f with her anyway)
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The very idea of paths is a fallacy.
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Ok...you quoted that bum Zandar but that doesn't really address my point. Also that quote is very ironic considering he's only mad but he feels humans have inadvertently limited themselves through the creation of Erudtion which leads to Paths and Aeons.
However last time I checked every Path comes from humanity (sentience) and every Aeon came from person (sentient lifeform).
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Polka is a fanatic zealot serial killer who stops humanity from taking another step into the unknown. No different than killing the person who discovered fire, dooming humans to live in the cold forever. It isn’t and was never her place to decide if Life can or cannot go past that singularity. The death of the universe is natural, doesn’t justify her killing true geniuses to appease her gods calculations.
Herta reveres Polka, a known serial killer. So her boasting about ethics is ironic seeing the company she keeps.
Rupert one and two were genocidal maniacs, who through Nous’s prolonging of the war, led to the birth of the DESTRUCTION.
Defying the gods and breaking the shackles they bind you with will always be heroic, no matter the cost.
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aeons are inherently inhuman, like what’s your point? Matter in fact NOUS is a computer not any sort of lifeform. The bums are the Genius Society members who do nothing but sit on their asses all day glazing a god that shackles the universe. Rather die free than live a slave to arrogant fools who turn people into monkeys
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You seem to think that I think the geniuses are moral or ethical, but that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying there is nuance to some of their actions, regardless of our moral imperatives
Meh, depends on the perspective. Human knowledge is quite limited, but I understand the appeal to epiestemic humility.
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Phainon fought past Flame Reaver in the river of time as training session, when the 33,550,336th Cycle ended: Cyrene stated that it's like being swept away by the reverse flow of time then Evernight straight up stated Cyrene hid the Kephale's Coreflame in that same river of time to eventually transcend time and reach the Trailblazer's hands in the future with Herta saying Lycurgus's cognition / Inspiration Circuit simultaneously exist in two different timelines in which time moves slowly in the other.. Yeah. I'm adding this as the justification for Amphoreus cast and those coming later (Edo Star)
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