Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

[SuperNova55555]

So basically, Genshin's only way of escaping the cap right

They have to literally argue that genshin exists outside SoQ, IT and Imaginary Space because every single one of those places possesses Honkai and Imaginary Energy.

And Asmoday is the most blatant expy ever bro. That’s literally just Kiana with an alias. Identical looks, identical abilities, all of that

 

[MSahla]

when literally every single living being possesses Imaginary Energy.

Yet in Teyvat they didn't. Apparently the False Sky and the “Borders” in Teyvat created by the Heavenly Principles and the Four Shades are strong enough to block the Imaginary Energy.

Maybe they themselves (HP and Four Shades) are the ones who possesses the Imaginary Energy itself. But, who knows, nothings yet confirmed.

What do you think Asmoday controlling nothingness or a void means? You know that’s literally the exact same thing that the Herrscher of Void does in order to control Imaginary Space and Space in general, right?

You know it’s literally the same ability, yea?

They are very very similar, didn't they? Almost 100%. But still, it's still not enough to make it legit. At least, wait for the new lore regarding her and the others. Cause, we just got a bunch of new things for her, and the lore implied that she will be very relevant in the future.

In fact, you literally got Dawei and Aquaria literally says we have to keep follow the story to know more about the relationship between Asmoday and Kiana.

Aquaria: 这位神明在我们看起来，米哈游的小伙伴们都会感受到一股亲切感。这位神明感觉会有种「似曾相识」的感觉。 "[Players of miHoYo games] will feel as though this god is a familiar face, as though you've somehow met before."

Wei Liu: 那她到底跟大家的心目中的「似曾相识」的角色之间有什么样的关系呢？那么，还请大家去我们这个《原神》里面亲自去感受。 "As to the relationship that exists between her and the "character you've met before" everyone is thinking of, please experience it for yourself in Genshin Impact."

Aquaria: 这一点还是有劳我们的《原神》的粉丝和原学家们去挖掘了。 "This point will be up to the Genshin Impact fans and lore enthusiasts to explore."

But sure bro, if you want to deny your only chance at higher-dimensional manipulation, that’s fine by me. Your loss, really.

I mean, that's not a really big problem here. we just following what's the current one.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Yet in Teyvat they didn't. Apparently the False Sky and the “Borders” in Teyvat created by the Heavenly Principles and the Four Shades are strong enough to block the Imaginary Energy.

Source???

 

[Ezalipaz]

bro if Genshin can block Imaginary Energy then you argue for it to be Bubble World not Leaf World anymore since Leaf World need Imaginary to maintain it existence

 

[SuperNova55555]

bro if Genshin can block Imaginary Energy then you argue for it to be Bubble World not Leaf World anymore since Leaf World need Imaginary to maintain it existence

Bubble Worlds explicitly needs Imaginary energy to stabilize their existence bro. The only way this is coherent is if Genshin is outside the cosmology completely

 

[MSahla]

Source???

I mean, i don't see anyone in Teyvat using Imaginary Energy til now. Not even someone who come from beyond the Planet itself. Currently, the only main purposes of the existence of the False Sky is to block a large amount of Abyssal Energy to invade Teyvat.

 

[Le'garde273]

Source???

I guess he mistook blocking aeons influence in the similar way with CoF one, cause both of them completely isolated rather blocking imaginary energy.

Fake sky arguably to be imaginary barrier tbh according to hexenzirkel book.

 

[SuperNova55555]

I mean, i don't see anyone in Teyvat using Imaginary Energy til now. Not even someone who come from beyond the Planet itself. Currently, the only main purposes of the existence of the False Sky is to block a large amount of Abyssal Energy to invade Teyvat.

Yea that means nothing. Imaginary Energy doesn’t even have to be used in that way. And again, Genshin’s world can’t exist without Imaginary Energy, otherwise it would die and fuse into SoQ.

 

[Ezalipaz]

Bubble Worlds explicitly needs Imaginary energy to stabilize their existence bro. The only way this is coherent is if Genshin is outside the cosmology completely

yeah that like the whole point of Dudu Bubble world shenanigan since Bubble world lack IE source to maintain their existence indefinitely so eventually those world would dissolve

 

[MSahla]

Yea that means nothing. Imaginary Energy doesn’t even have to be used in that way. And again, Genshin’s world can’t exist without Imaginary Energy, otherwise it would die and fuse into SoQ.

Sure, if we want it to be that way. I'll consider that as true.

 

[Le'garde273]

I mean, i don't see anyone in Teyvat using Imaginary Energy til now. Not even someone who come from beyond the Planet itself. Currently, the only main purposes of the existence of the False Sky is to block a large amount of Abyssal Energy to invade Teyvat.

Imaginary by essence and definition are the thing that make up the entire universe, so not having it particularly make them non existent.

All we can tell at best fake sky blocking the influence, not imaginary energy directly.

 

[SuperNova55555]

So if I were Sahl, I’d go and larp for 5D manip for the Shades. But that’s just me.

 

[MSahla]

Imaginary by essence and definition are the thing that make up the entire universe, so not having it particularly make them non existent.

All we can tell at best fake sky blocking the influence, not imaginary energy directly.

I guess that triquerta symbol you just mentioned that it is basically the symbol of Imaginary can be the proof of it. So yeah..

 

[MSahla]

So if I were Sahl, I’d go and larp for 5D manip for the Shades. But that’s just me.

I can give you a lot of things from Genshin you needed regarding them, then you just have to make an args about it. That's, if you really want to do it.

 

[Le'garde273]

So if I were Sahl, I’d go and larp for 5D manip for the Shades. But that’s just me.

I mean they ever directly mention if shades power affecting higher level of reality anyway...

 

[Ezalipaz]

Genshin can not escape from IE one way or another like IE exist even in SoQ, if those border can block IE then eventually Genshin would become Bubble World which you know would be really bad altho it might already be in the process of becoming one with Abyss shenanigan

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Bubble Worlds explicitly needs Imaginary energy to stabilize their existence bro. The only way this is coherent is if Genshin is outside the cosmology completely

Yea that means nothing. Imaginary Energy doesn’t even have to be used in that way. And again, Genshin’s world can’t exist without Imaginary Energy, otherwise it would die and fuse into SoQ.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Yall mfs gotta stop with the Does he know pics and explain the thing

 

[MSahla]

Genshin can not escape from IE one way or another like IE exist even in SoQ, if those border can block IE then eventually Genshin would become Bubble World which you know would be really bad altho it might already be in the process of becoming one with Abyss shenanigan

But apparently, it's not just Teyvat, but the whole universe. So, if we consider this “universe” is = Imaginary Tree, that means the Tree is cooked.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Yall mfs gotta stop with the Does he know pics and explain the thing

Do you want me to nuke HSR or not?

 

[SuperNova55555]

Genshin can not escape from IE one way or another like IE exist even in SoQ, if those border can block IE then eventually Genshin would become Bubble World which you know would be really bad altho it might already be in the process of becoming one with Abyss shenanigan

Internal Imaginary Energy is what is used in order to stabilize the existence of Membranes of SoQ into a Bubble World, it’s why Honkai exists in Bubbles even though at a more minute amount.

For something to possess zero IE, would at best mean that they are literally pure information dissolved into SoQ; i.e it wouldn’t exist, at all.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

But apparently, it's not just Teyvat, but the whole universe. So, if we consider this “universe” is = Imaginary Tree, that means the Tree is cooked.

Send the pinyin for "universe"

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

I hate that I know what you’re referring to…

 

[Le'garde273]

Do you want me to nuke HSR or not?

Nuke the fraud and glaze hi3 once for all

 

[MSahla]

Send the pinyin for "universe"

Wym

 

[SuperNova55555]

I hate that I know what you’re referring to…

I don’t

 

[Le'garde273]

 

[MSahla]

Somehow bro's always found a sticker/picture that is fit to the current conversation.

 

[Ezalipaz]

But apparently, it's not just Teyvat, but the whole universe. So, if we consider this “universe” is = Imaginary Tree, that means the Tree is cooked.

well that depending on the timelines of Genshin, if it far far away in the future compare to other games then it could be true that IT is cooked, but if it somewhat relative to other games then the universe part would be wrong

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

I'll tell yall what it is.

It's a genuinely massive HSR nuke.

But no, I won't give you the quote or the scan, and I'm pretty sure you can't find it on google. I'm actually crine. I've been tempted for days and days to leak what it is.

It's calling out to me HSRbros.

 

[MSahla]

well that depending on the timelines of Genshin, if it far far away in the future compare to other games then it could be true that IT is cooked, but if it somewhat relative to other games then the universe part would be wrong

I guess it'll be different timelines then, cause a lot of things in other honkai games that affect the entire tree, but it doesn't affect anything at all in Genshin's story.

 

[SuperNova55555]

I'll tell yall what it is.

It's a genuinely massive HSR nuke.

But no, I won't give you the quote or the scan, and I'm pretty sure you can't find it on google. I'm actually crine. I've been tempted for days and days to leak what it is.

It's calling out to me HSRbros.

Post that shit bruv.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

I guess it'll be different timelines then, cause a lot of things in other honkai games that affect the entire tree, but it doesn't affect anything at all in Genshin's story.

It doesn't effect anything in Hi3's story because HSR is like 9 years ahead. Genshin could be any amount of time ahead in the future. We don't know. Can't assume it doesn't reach Genshin at SOME point.

 

[MSahla]

It doesn't effect anything in Hi3's story because HSR is like 9 years ahead. Genshin could be any amount of time ahead in the future. We don't know. Can't assume it doesn't reach Genshin at SOME point.

But somehow Otto manage to observed Dvalin in Teyvat? So, Teyvat must be in the same timeline as HI3 now.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I guess it'll be different timelines then, cause a lot of things in other honkai games that affect the entire tree, but it doesn't affect anything at all in Genshin's story.

Because its explained in HSR that none remember when the universe went silent.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

I don’t

Good.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Post that shit bruv.

Nah just kidding I'm only ever dropping ts if HSR outscales Hi3 LMAO.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Nah just kidding I'm only ever dropping ts if HSR outscales Hi3 LMAO.

Ye I’m nuking Cocoon right now

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Ye I’m nuking Cocoon right now

If the Youyun scan is correct with Imaginary Energy coming from Imaginary Space then I could drop HE = IE (this'd be easy asf) (with the other evidence it has) and have full 1-B Cocoon TOMORROW This along with nuking HSR having Honkai Energy. (Check Hi3 general discussion).

Maybe even 1-A or L1-A depending on how high you wanna interpret the like... 4 scans for infinite-D CoF. We takin our time tho.

 

[MSahla]

But, If we want to consider Teyvat is far far away in the future from the timeline of HSR and HI3, that also could be wrong.

Because:

1. Otto observed Dvalin in Teyvat, which implies Teyvat is already exist. Unless what Otto obserbing is something in the past or the future. I mean there's literally Genshin characters in HI3
2. There is a wind glider in Herta's Space Station. Though it may be just an easter egg, but that could also implied that someone has managed to take that Wind Glider from Teyvat, or Someone from Teyvat brought it.