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Honkai Impact 3rd

Yes, I'm talking about a video about the gameplay of the Boss Battle that was uploaded on youtube, which was not included in the version 5.5 trailer

If you're curious about the video, search "Void Archives Len Matsui"
Ah, that guy. He seems fairly new to the fandom but has already posted plenty of good stuff. I look forward to playing it myself.
 
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Loooooool
If you know the reference, you know the reference.
 
When I first saw this I laughed a lot, but seriously, how a """"romance"""" manga doesn't develop at all what it was supposed to develop in more than 200 chapters at the same time it manages to fall into the deep end in that way?

And look, as much as I despise Otto and his actions as a person, comparing his character to the likes of Kazuya and Eren is a such heavy disrespect to him
 
It was released a video about the creation and development of Palatinus Equinox Durandal battlesuit, also, it has a interesting statement from the developers, which is that they said the PE form is the strongest version of Durandal
 
So how would False God Otto rank now? It took the combined efforts of Flamescion (who's an unknown amount stronger than HOV) and stigmata-awakened Durandal (who lacks feats) to defeat him. Additionally, he's immortal unless his connection with the Imaginary Tree(?) is severed by void powers(?).
 
1. Tier comparable Kiana HoFc then, don't know about Dudu
2. Immortality type 8, reliant on the tree.

But well i need to play game first haven't touch it
 
How many cores does Kiana currently have, again? Void, Death, and Fire, I'm sure, but I can't remember if she had any more.
 
Only Void and Flame, the Death one is still a gem, not evolve to a core yet, and there is no proof she capable of drawing its power, or at least the energy it held
 
Only Void and Flame, the Death one is still a gem, not evolve to a core yet, and there is no proof she capable of drawing its power, or at least the energy it held
I thought she did use the Death gem, though. It was keeping her in the fight with Mei every time she was injured too much, wasn't it?

Still, this is only 3. So Flamescion is weaker than Sirin at her peak, who had 6? Maybe the number of gems and cores isn't the best metric to compare their strengths with, but it's also the only one for now.
 
I thought she did use the Death gem, though. It was keeping her in the fight with Mei every time she was injured too much, wasn't it?

Still, this is only 3. So Flamescion is weaker than Sirin at her peak, who had 6? Maybe the number of gems and cores isn't the best metric to compare their strengths with, but it's also the only one for now.
Flamescion is much stronger than Sirin, re-awakened HoV already was much stronger than Sirin and Flamescion has 2 cores + 1 gem. So yeah..
 
I thought she did use the Death gem, though. It was keeping her in the fight with Mei every time she was injured too much, wasn't it?

Still, this is only 3. So Flamescion is weaker than Sirin at her peak, who had 6? Maybe the number of gems and cores isn't the best metric to compare their strengths with, but it's also the only one for now.
1. No, nothing stated it is the effect of the gem of serenity, it could be just artistic choice, and Mei is not that "harsh" on Kiana.
2. Gem is weaker than full fledged Herrscher Core, possibly massively weaker. Look at Wendy, she is very disappointing in term of power. Sirin at her peak is not that strong, she have at first 1 Void Core, the was gifted with 4 gems from...eh.....Will of Honkai, then take the Reason Core from Welt. But now we all know that without the acceptance from the 300k consciousness inside the core, you can't use the HoR power to full extent. To be honest without her connection with Will of Honkai, she is not that strong
 
Flamescion is much stronger than Sirin, re-awakened HoV already was much stronger than Sirin and Flamescion has 2 cores + 1 gem. So yeah..
No...I thought it was clear that Sirin the second time around wasn't as strong as she was in Second Eruption.

Sirin at her peak is not that strong, she have at first 1 Void Core, the was gifted with 4 gems from...eh.....Will of Honkai, then take the Reason Core from Welt.
Yes she was incredibly strong, and this was why she was an incredibly major threat that only Fu Hua could defeat, and later Siegfried after she lost the lightning gem. But even then, she still survived his petaton Shamash strike.

Even now, SE Sirin is a good standard to judge other characters by. She's just that strong.
 
No...I thought it was clear that Sirin the second time around wasn't as strong as she was in Second Eruption.
It's super clear that she is stronger, Tesla outright states that HoV has far more Honkai Energy than ever recorded before, and HoV just existing was caused entire islands to start sinking. Compared to Sirin who's presence did basically nothing and she had to manually destroy things. Then there's HoV completely ******** on the Oath of Judah + Star of Eden at the same time nearly instantly.
 
So how would False God Otto rank now? It took the combined efforts of Flamescion (who's an unknown amount stronger than HOV) and stigmata-awakened Durandal (who lacks feats) to defeat him. Additionally, he's immortal unless his connection with the Imaginary Tree(?) is severed by void powers(?).
By what we have now, it was stated twice by the developers that Palatinus Equinox is strongest and most powerful version of Durandal, which makes her superior to Dea Anchora, which is High 1-C currently, and HoF Kiana is portrayed as equal to her when fighting False God Otto



 
It's super clear that she is stronger, Tesla outright states that HoV has far more Honkai Energy than ever recorded before, and HoV just existing was caused entire islands to start sinking. Compared to Sirin who's presence did basically nothing and she had to manually destroy things. Then there's HoV completely ******** on the Oath of Judah + Star of Eden at the same time nearly instantly.
Links to videos of this?
By what we have now, it was stated twice by the developers that Palatinus Equinox is strongest and most powerful version of Durandal, which makes her superior to Dea Anchora, which is High 1-C currently, and HoF Kiana is portrayed as equal to her when fighting False God Otto




Tier 1 is highly exaggerated. All we know about Palatinus Equinox is that it's stronger than all her previous forms by an unknown degree.
 
Tier 1 is highly exaggerated. All we know about Palatinus Equinox is that it's stronger than all her previous forms by an unknown degree.
I mean, if you look at Durandal's profile page, you will see Dea Anchora's Tier is High 1-C, I'm not exaggerating
 
To be honest, Dea Anchora is featless. Her H1C rating come from she have bubble universe inside her. But now she actually lost it. No reason to scale all later form to that bubble universe anymore. Also if PE and later character scale to H1C, it will break scaling chain, and make all future character have H1C which make no sense. Lastly, Mihoyo just making game, they doesn't know anything about vs battle tier, the statement about PE being strongest form hold no weight here for the time being
 
Links to videos of this?
I am not about to scroll through hour long gameplays to find some CGs they're in the HoV reawakening arc thing (ch 8??? idk whenever teri fights hov) and before that the tesla statement is on the hov page itself and the island stuff is mentioned somewhere in return to nagazora where we find out about ravens backstory
 
To be honest, Dea Anchora is featless. Her H1C rating come from she have bubble universe inside her. But now she actually lost it. No reason to scale all later form to that bubble universe anymore. Also if PE and later character scale to H1C, it will break scaling chain, and make all future character have H1C which make no sense. Lastly, Mihoyo just making game, they doesn't know anything about vs battle tier, the statement about PE being strongest form hold no weight here for the time being
DA isn't really featless. The Holy Blade of Durandal clears up that DA's main power source is the power of the Sea of Quanta which is the Ether Anchor, a higher dimensional structure that projects the ontology of the abstract and regular onto the universe and organizes the universe along with every higher and lower dimensions within it.
 
DA isn't really featless. The Holy Blade of Durandal clears up that DA's main power source is the power of the Sea of Quanta which is the Ether Anchor, a higher dimensional structure that projects the ontology of the abstract and regular onto the universe and organizes the universe along with every higher and lower dimensions within it.
and all La Nina feats can be applied to DA, and vice versa. As well as the fact that DA has massive spatial hax where she can invert the bubble universe very easily
 
I personally think that if we take that statement for true than Dea Anchora should be downgraded to "Unknown". While there are many evidences that DA is powered by the Bubble Universe, having PE at High 1-C would cause too many problems scaling wise.
But I don't think PE should scale higher than DA, mainly because, as Vietthai said, after the events of Chapter 25-EX she doesn't have the Bubble Universe powering her up anymore.
So overall the scaling in my opinion would be Dea Anchora at High 1-C while Palatinus Equinox, HoF Kiana and False God Otto are High 6-A.
 
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I am not about to scroll through hour long gameplays to find some CGs they're in the HoV reawakening arc thing (ch 8??? idk whenever teri fights hov) and before that the tesla statement is on the hov page itself and the island stuff is mentioned somewhere in return to nagazora where we find out about ravens backstory


You mean this? I thought about this and decided that it doesn't make much sense. How could she be stronger after being dormant for years and having fewer cores and gems than before?

I'll rewatch recordings to find those feats later.
 
If we choose not to scale Palatinus Equinox to Dea Anchora, fine by me, I just wanted to talk about it, but I think if we put a key for Durandal in her PE form, it would be good to put a note explaining why we don't scale it to DA despite the developers statement
 
You mean this? I thought about this and decided that it doesn't make much sense. How could she be stronger after being dormant for years and having fewer cores and gems than before?
Ah, it does make sense though. Sirin was a random girl from Siberia who just got the cores, while Kiana was a Kaslana and Schariac. Both of which have a high amount of Honkai Energy level tolerance which would increase the cap needed for a Herrscher to reawaken, if you remember, Otto directly injected Honkai into Kiana even after injecting the core of death into her. Plus, HoV herself could've drawn on the Honkai Energy from the tech that Schicksal uses, and all kinds of other things. And if you remember, when Kiana was 12, a Honkai Eruption occured and HoV partially awakened, it's likely that she absorbed the Honkai Energy of that Eruption into her core which would stack ontop of all of the other Honkai Energy.
 
If we choose not to scale Palatinus Equinox to Dea Anchora, fine by me, I just wanted to talk about it, but I think if we put a key for Durandal in her PE form, it would be good to put a note explaining why we don't scale it to DA despite the developers statement
imo it's likely that they're either refering to her being the strongest gameplay wise or are making a one off statement with the context of nerfed DA in mind and without much thought.
 
Nah i think they refer to lorewise, but problem is, they are unaware of the crazy High 1-C stuff we have on the wiki, they probably just think that hey Dudu have a bubble universe inside her, that cool, make DA battlesuit which use the power of the universe, and then make PE stronger than DA. Well they are author/developer, they doesn't care about these stuff like us
 
Ah, it does make sense though. Sirin was a random girl from Siberia who just got the cores, while Kiana was a Kaslana and Schariac. Both of which have a high amount of Honkai Energy level tolerance which would increase the cap needed for a Herrscher to reawaken, if you remember, Otto directly injected Honkai into Kiana even after injecting the core of death into her. Plus, HoV herself could've drawn on the Honkai Energy from the tech that Schicksal uses, and all kinds of other things. And if you remember, when Kiana was 12, a Honkai Eruption occured and HoV partially awakened, it's likely that she absorbed the Honkai Energy of that Eruption into her core which would stack ontop of all of the other Honkai Energy.
I find it hard to believe that all the random ambient Honkai energy she absorbed and the amount that Otto had her injected with to reawaken would be vastly more than the power she had with 6 gems/cores.

And as for "universe-tier" Bianka, I've always thought of it as her drawing energy from the bubble universe, but not all the energy of the universe at once. That would obviously collapse the bubble universe. Think of it as solar panels absorbing power from the sun but not absorbing 100% of the power from the sun, only a fraction at a time. The amount of energy she can access is unfortunately unknown and unquantifiable.
 
And as for "universe-tier" Bianka, I've always thought of it as her drawing energy from the bubble universe, but not all the energy of the universe at once. That would obviously collapse the bubble universe. Think of it as solar panels absorbing power from the sun but not absorbing 100% of the power from the sun, only a fraction at a time. The amount of energy she can access is unfortunately unknown and unquantifiable.
We already know that she can draw star shattering power easily, and it's not a small bubble universe really either, it has multiple higher dimensions and has the powers of the Ether Anchor attached to it, the Ether Anchor being able to easily reorganize the entire bubble universe by itself and being able to connect all sorts of membranes to it. There's also the fact that the devs make it very clear that when fighting her, you're fighting an entire universe and that her armor is the universe itself. That's still massivley above star level, especially since she could create a singularity that can invert the entire universe. As well as the Blade of Durandal quoting that it's mission is to destroy universes, ect.
 
Some people want the real Kiana as own characters. Years later Honkai Chapter 26, Durandal Is the Real Kiana, cause half real Kiana's fans to pissed off, outrage, shock and etc... Include myself, I don't know why i'm happy? Right? Please tell me i'm not only one...

EDIT: Nevermind, let ignore my comment.
 
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