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Hollow Knight size problem
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No, because we can see hornet scales to her thread and needle very well, she doesn’t usually throw it long distances, so they probably throw it 2-3 yards most of the time, i think 1 foot tall for hornet seems reasonable
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A yard is almost a meter.
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Yes, but hornet throws her needle much farther than most characters sizes, so id say characters are one meter at max, the average being 1 foot, with hornet having 30 yards in range
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Do you agree with hornet and the knight being a little higher than 1 foot?
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Hornet throws her needle. It isn't a reference to size, methinks, but a measure of how far she can throw.
EDIT: To be clear, she just throws the thing clean off the screen with her string attached to it. I doubt this is any reference to size.
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That's one hell of an accuracy feat, then.
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All im saying is that they are most likely taller than there current profiles say, and maybe we should upgrade top tiers to 8-C or higher? Since they destroyed the dream realm, and any hollow knight player that has beat the game knows they are in fact physical, and the dream realm is shown to be multiple large buildings.
edit:*each dream is shown to be multiple steps, buildings, and grounds
edit2: what i meant scale well, is that you can see while your fighting her, she definitely throws her needle a few feet, and she is scalable to that string and needle.
edit:*each dream is shown to be multiple steps, buildings, and grounds
edit2: what i meant scale well, is that you can see while your fighting her, she definitely throws her needle a few feet, and she is scalable to that string and needle.
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The Dream Realm's buildings wouldn't be building-sized due to them being massive only by a bug's POV. They'd be only a few meters tall with our current scale. Which would still be worth looking into, but there's no indication that it'd scale to physical stats.
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Dreams=essence, essence can be touched and even given, the seer even rewards you for collecting it with the dream nail, plus the godhome by this scale would be several meters tall
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I fail to see how being able to touch it changes anything.
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Being able to touch what dreams are made out of, = physical, thats like saying you can touch a person, but how does that prove they exist, and also an ending where the shade lord(who was in the dream realm) husted out into the physical world, meaning dreams have some type of tangible part to them
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... Yes, they are tangible, they are physical. That does not change the fact that I see no reason for it to scale to physicals.
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God damned snipers.
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Its physical, as in if your strong in the dream realm, your strong in the physical realm, dreams are physical, if you destroy a dream, thats as big as, lets say a shed, it should be akin to destroying an actual shed, because that shed was made up in a world thats made up of physical objects.
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If it exists, in a physical, tangible, touchable way, i see no problem with having dreams in Hollow Knight scale to physicals
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Yes, and the Knight does not destroy those places. They are destroyed by the death of the people dreaming them. This has no reason to scale to physicals.
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bro......... do you play hollow knight? It is explicitly explained dreams do not disappear after death(cough dream bosses cough) the knight destroyed everyones dreams, and the radiance held power over all of them
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I have 102%ed hollow knight two times and speedran it for a bit, yes. I have played it. My bad for saying death, I meant destroying their souls. Still, that does destroy the dreams, but it still isn't done by the Knight, just caused by his actions. It's like pushing a button that activates an explosive.
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Yes, but im talking about scaling to radiance and shade lord, we both should agree the shade lord can destroy the dream realm.... because he does in the game, and the radiance made everyones dream hers, so the shade lord and the radiance should get an upgrade, and since the knight defeated the radiance, they scale to her.
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Either way, this isn't the thread for it.
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should i make my own crt? and what do we agree that the size should be?
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You should probably wait until this one's concluded.
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ok as that, does anyone want to make more points for either side? If not lets get this closed and move on to a crt about my discussion.
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@Armorchompy we need to exchange what we think about increasing the size of Hollow Knight characters
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Nobody's opinions have changed. Some think they're large bugs in a world with large plants, some, myself included, think they're average bugs in a world with average plants.
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Ok i think its good to close this thread as both sides are kinda moot at this point, so ima create a crt for shade lord and radiance later today
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Slow down, we need to come to an agreement.
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ok, what can we agree on, we currently have the knight at 10 inches tall, so 1 feet tall wouldn’t be too much, but it would raise the scale, can we agree on that?
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This would be a massive AP upgrade.
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I don't agree with it, and I don't think it has any solid basis.
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I agree with human sized Hollow Knight
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so who wants human sized hollow knight, and who wants them to stay the same
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I am ok with it, though only slightly.
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ill count 3 because of an two earlier people that agreed, and one for disagree, can we contact staff? I mean i wanna a little staff input On the situation
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@Wokistan what do you think, the arguements for this to be changed are about hornet scaling to her needle thread, which can extend to 30 yards according to team cherry from a kickstarter post, and the arguements against it are that plants are consistently taller than the knight, that wouldn't be that large to humans. also "
They're not trees, they're moss, and vines, and grass, and yet they're consistently oversized. Even considering the Knight's 0.75 times as tall as the normal citizen, the fact that grass is consistently super-tall, even in semi-desertic areas, stays there.
The options are
1) Bugs are human-sized, Plants are ridicolously large. No explaination for the latter.
2) Plants are normal-sized, bugs are bug-sized. The latter isn't our usual assumption, but this way there's no logical issues." is a post from @Armorchompy, does this change anything, is it affecting your stance, lemme know
They're not trees, they're moss, and vines, and grass, and yet they're consistently oversized. Even considering the Knight's 0.75 times as tall as the normal citizen, the fact that grass is consistently super-tall, even in semi-desertic areas, stays there.
The options are
1) Bugs are human-sized, Plants are ridicolously large. No explaination for the latter.
2) Plants are normal-sized, bugs are bug-sized. The latter isn't our usual assumption, but this way there's no logical issues." is a post from @Armorchompy, does this change anything, is it affecting your stance, lemme know
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You said that four times already, without adding anything to that a single time. We get it.
We did NOT decide to vote and you do not have the authority to, I repeat, slow down, this is not gonna be instant, and you are not gonna turn it into a FRA train where you ignore all arguments with a numbers superiority.
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I was just trying to tally who wanted what, and see what a staff member thought, i wasn’t ending this, since there might be some input still floating around, can we at the moment come to a compromise to the size of the knight, you want them to stay on the current scale, and op and i want them upgraded by a few inches, how far are you willing to go? And excluding vegetation, do you have any other arguments?
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I don't think this is something that can be compromised. And no, there is no other large argument, however the opposition's argument is only that our default assumption is that those bug people should be as tall as people, so I think mine holds more weight anyway.
Oh, and I forgot to mention, Mushrooms too. Those are also superhumanly huge. Mushrooms aren't plants so it bears mentioning I suppose.
Oh, and I forgot to mention, Mushrooms too. Those are also superhumanly huge. Mushrooms aren't plants so it bears mentioning I suppose.
