High 3-A downscaling

[Peter1129]

So yeah basically like the title suggest I want to ask about how downscaling with High 3-A works with given multipliers.

Character A's Base form is at least 4-A as they scale above 4-A characters but they themselves don't have any feats outside of being massively stronger than 4-As. But their final form scales to Baseline High 3-A and has a given multiplier of 10x their Base form. Would Character A's Base form be downscaled to 1/10 High 3-A or would we just downscale to 3-B assuming that High 3-A functions the same way as 3-A in the verse? Or do we just assume their final form is 4-A likely High 3-A and that their base form just remains 4-A and won't get a likely Tier 3 stat? Like how would the tiering look? Got three choices here imo but I want to make sure which one is the correct way to tier this scenario.

Ver.1
Tier: At least 4-A (1 ZettaFoe), likely High 3-A (1/10 High 3-A), High 3-A (Baseline) w/ Final Form

or

Ver.2
Tier: At least 4-A (1 ZettaFoe), likely 3-B (1/10 of High 3-A), High 3-A (Baseline) w/ Final Form

or

Ver.3
Tier: At least 4-A (1 ZettaFoe), likely higher, at least 4-A (10 ZettaFoe), likely High 3-A (Baseline) w/ Final Form

So what should I do in this case?

 

[SeijiSetto]

i would just downscale their base from High 3-A (infinity / 10 is still infinity), which is basically Ver.1
i don't think you need the "At least 4-A" since you'd expect a High 3-A to be waaaaaay stronger anyway

 

[Peter1129]

Fair enough

Though personally I would probably still keep the low end of 4-A for their Base form as both tiers are from scaling to other characters in some way.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I mean we had Dragon Ball characters becoming Tier 2 with merely a x400 multiplier (Toei Goku), so...

 

[Peter1129]

…You know I forgot that there are characters that don’t downscale even when they have given multipliers.

Though tbf that’s jumping from like tier 4 or 3 to tier 2. In this case it’s technically still tier 3 stuff. Just varying degrees of it.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Though tbf that’s jumping from like tier 4 or 3 to tier 2. In this case it’s technically still tier 3 stuff. Just varying degrees of it.

I mean, if it does with Tier 2, why not High 3-A? They're still infinitely above Tier 4 anyways.

 

[Peter1129]

Ehh I guess you’re right

 

[Flashlight237]

It's a little weird. If you're going from infinite to infinite, you'd still be High 3-A, but if you're going from infinite to finite, at most you're getting 3-A depending on the number.

 

[StrymULTRA]

It's a little weird. If you're going from infinite to infinite, you'd still be High 3-A, but if you're going from infinite to finite, at most you're getting 3-A depending on the number.

Tbh depends from the verse.

Like Dragon Ball allows fuckery like that because of the power levels being non linear, as Toriyama has 0 idea of the gaps between tiers, allowing far smaller multipliers to make characters have extreme tier jumps.

 

[Peter1129]

Not the weirdest. We’ve got High 3-As becoming Low 2-C after being hundreds of thousand of times into High 3-A. And Low 2-C becoming 2-C after a 10x multiplier in the series as well.

Was mostly trying to see if it was possible to keep the 3-B tier since the 3-A like High 3-A feat in series is confirmed to be outright High 3-A now.

 

[Flashlight237]

Tbh depends from the verse.

Like Dragon Ball allows fuckery like that because of the power levels being non linear, as Toriyama has 0 idea of the gaps between tiers, allowing far smaller multipliers to make characters have extreme tier jumps.

Technically that would be more like Toyotaro in Super's case, but I digress.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Not the weirdest. We’ve got High 3-As becoming Low 2-C after being hundreds of thousand of times into High 3-A. And Low 2-C becoming 2-C after a 10x multiplier in the series as well.

Krillin became 2-C with just some random training while he was like 4-C (and you ain't telling me he got a literally infinite boost as that just can't exist in Dragon Ball).

Technically that would be more like Toyotaro in Super's case, but I digress.

5-C from Tier 8 through some x10 jump tho.

 

[Flashlight237]

5-C from Tier 8 through some x10 jump tho.

Lmao, touche..!

 

[Peter1129]

I keep forgetting that dragon ball already did the weird tiering stuff ages ago

But yeah I guess it’s time to say goodbye to 3–B then. Sigh. Really wish we never found that infinite universe statement for the universe that the universal distortion feat occurred in. Would’ve preferred the universes to only be considered likely infinite instead of outright infinite.