Current justice would lose to beel as confirmed by vanripper. Judgment is also superior to beel.
Please link where the creator says that Helltaker is 5-B?
The thing is the creator streams a lot and has a lot of information that is given here. Like an official power list and beel being able to go toe to toe with the great unclean ones from war hammer 40k. People on Reddit compile everything he says in posts and I will link to the compliment of this stream and the stream itself.
new info makes it seem like they’re lowballed at the moment. top tiers in the verse could be planet to solar system level
Most of the downgrade stuff actually got contradicted by later stuff. What's been accepted should work tho.
This is correct, yes. Cross-scaling is almost always a big no-no.
Eh I wouldn’t really say that’s social influencing. Judgment doesn’t want to do her job. She’s super nice and overplays because of her role. Not to mention her friends were on Taker’s side.
Well should this at least make it so we shouldn’t downgrade? The author clearly views them as above wall level so making them lower is inconsistent.
Feats>>>>>Word of God sadly
Well we do have an official power list for the top five. It’s judgment, beel, and then Lucy or justice (not high prosecutor). So there isn’t a reason to downgrade
the first one shouldn’t be applied as we do know where beel scales compared to the others. We shouldn’t keep at least as the demons most likely scale higher as implied by vanripper. But nothing is concrete so at least should stay. Also only Lucifer is the only shapeshifter and not the other demons.
We also have statements about beel potentially being able to conquer the world. Something about her being released from the abyss would mean the end of the world (or it would be bad for the entire planet).
Unknown tier statements
Pretty much this. Vanripper is still making Helltaker comics and shit to my knowledge, so maybe some good feats will pop up.
Nothing has been applied yet and technically there is still a debate about a few bits.
Yes but keeping wall plus and moving judgment to wall plus are fine
Wall level plus requires being 0.0025 tons with a calc. No.
Actually you need to be borderline plus to upscale into it.
I was talking about a 9-B getting a + from insane upscaling, it was a joke lol
Beel is that level. But judgement scales above her
No, she isn't. Unless you have some feats I don't know of.
I do not remember any feats of that level.
Of the above, only level skipping was contested and only by one person and, personally, I think their arguments are insufficient to keep it. I think all of the above are good for removal. What say anybody else?
What about this? The arguments for Resistance to Disease and Perception Manip are based on Helltaker living in the Abyss without any noticeable effects on his body, which the comics suggest.
@Ant there has been no change since my last post. There seems to be very little interest from staff in actually finishing this.
