Hellaverse - Vox Tier 0 Upgrade

[Agnaa]

Tier 0 Justification​

The quotes within this section come from this Polygon interview with Vivienne.

God in the Hellaverse is an incomprehensible entity that fundamentally cannot be directly depicted.

Will we see God at some point in the series? Medrano isn't planning on it.

"I do think that the concept of God is so ethereal, and beyond comprehension by just its nature, that I didn't ever want to fully depict it in that way."

"But in my show, the Speaker of God is the closest we get to the God everyone thinks of. She represents it, but she is not it."

Beyond even the still-depictable concepts of Good and Evil.

Medrano reveals that the setting does have "gods," and they're coming up later in the show.

"They're a huge part of the show. We did actually get a peek at them in season 1 — in the opening story, we're told about the entities of Good and Evil. So without giving too much away, the closest we get to gods [in the Hellaverse] are these concepts of Good and Evil personified. I cannot wait for that, because it's a fun way of exploring the concept of an entity without it being necessarily what people expect."

This is a clear one-for-one for transdual ineffable apophatic theology kabbalah true god ein soff fable h kabbbl ic e e th e alod true gy eodue gol god e insoffff thapogof atruabaphabban trah insopolaphefahe ansopoduah efath kan in kan kalod ahatrueopogy ababblal gofahablololeofapogy in kalal ic th efala.

Which is explicitly described as Tier 0 on the Omnipotence page

Broadly speaking, apophaticism is closely related to the mechanics of Tier 0, insofar as existing beyond all divisions and separations entails an inability to be circumscribed by any singular concept. And historically, the two concepts have also walked hand-in-hand in one way or another.

Scaling to Vox​

Now you may wonder, why's Vox in the title? How could he possibly scale to something like this?

You may wonder that if you haven't seen Season 2, at least, since in there we get this very explicit statement:

Soon I'll be up there
The one and only True God

Now, while we haven't actually seen that happen in the story, Tier 0 is a very strange rating. It's eternal and unchanging, any character in that tier will actually have been that strong all along, and a later part of the song actually gestures at that:

Climb the stairway up to Heaven, live on every TV
Always knew the guy they're praying to was gonna be me.

This mixing of tenses, invoking past (was) present (praying) and future (gonna be), is a clear nod at this eternal nature.

If a character can ever, even in a single possible universe, reach a Tier 0 rating, that status of theirs will eternally be true across all realities, as explained, again, by our Omnipotence page:

With the advent of analytic theology, this concept naturally lent itself to be transformed into the idea that God, in short, exists in all possible worlds.

So, although we haven't seen it (yet), we can tell that Vox is indeed already omnipotent.

Anti-Feats​

"But the anti-feats!" I hear you snivel and whimper from behind your grime-encrusted keyboards and crack-filled screens.

What a despicable existence you are, truly. You contemptible fool. You worm. You scoundrel. Filth. Filth filth filth filth filth filth filth filth filth filth filth filth filth filth filth filth.

Is Jesus being crucified an anti-feat? Of course not. The Vox we see is merely holding back, as this series of events where he gets *****-slapped around by Alastor is an integral part of his ascension.

But rest assured that one day that filthy deer will eat his words.

Votes​

Hyper Agree: 1 (@LittleGuy99)

Agree: 29 (@Sera_EX, @SeiryuShin, @KamiYasha, @LordAizenSama, @KuuIchigo, @The_Living_Tribunal1, @Marvel_Champion_07, @GarrixianXD, @Thebluedash, @LordXcano, @Grudgeman1706, @VenomElite, @QuasiYuri, @Tivanenk, @FanofRPGs, @ImagoDesattrolante, @Sayo_Yasuda, @Wankbreaker, @cloudyagami, @TheOrangeGuy09, @ShinMaximillion, @Da3ggman, @Mommyleona) (let me know if I missed anyone)

Disagree: 0

Neutral: 0

 

[Udlmaster]

So true bestie.

 

[Vzearr]

Cloudyagaballs would agree with this.

 

[Rikimarox2]

CRT so good even banned staff are in the agreement vote. Amazing.

 

[ShionAH]

Only if we will make Lucifer scale to Tier 11 too

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Only if we will make Lucifer scale to Tier 11 too

I mean Vox put that fraud into his place via raw aura, that’s already Tier 12 for that fodder

Regarding the thread, it’s too based, automatic agree. Also I love what the OP yaps, Alastor will never amount to anything with his life, below all fiction

 

[Agnaa]

I mean Vox put that fraud into his place via raw aura, that’s already Tier 12 for that fodder

Regarding the thread, it’s too based, automatic agree. Also I love what the OP yaps, Alastor will never amount to anything with his life, below all fiction

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

This caught me off-guard but this is so in-character for Vox to do

Trust Agnaa with your scaling…

 

[Udlmaster]

This is even funnier for me because all I see is "Reason: CONTENT NOT VIEWABLE IN YOUR REGION"

 

[ShinMaximillion]

Goated thread.

However, the goat Wankbreaker would never agree, it's in the name.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Peak reasoning, you have my agreement.

 

[Mythic381]

Disagree as I don't see 500 mentions of him being ineffable.

 

[EvoltOz]

lowball

 

[Da3ggman]

Finally, the genius of Vivziepop’s writing is being realized by the masses!

Agree on all fronts, excellent work my good man.

 

[Phoenks]

Alastor upscale

 

[LittleGuy99]

Hyper agree

 

[BoastJr]

all I see is an Adam upscale

He too is made in God's image and thus negs everyone in S2

 

[Zyurtunder13]

This shit is so peak, a white tear goes down my legs

 

[Steve1775]

I still can't believe I live in a world where Hazbin Hotel can actually solo Chainsaw Man (speed equalized)

 

[ShionAH]

(speed equalized)

speed unequalized is even worse since Hazbin will be FTL

 

[Mommyleona]

why is this in fun and games??

Ultra agree otherwise

 

[Mythic381]

why is this in fun and games??

Because he's beyond 0.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

best Hellaverse thread ever