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Transduality, to be honest is a very complicated ability. But again the abilities currently being revised, so this match hardly work
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Hecatia vs Anos
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Checking the page, it seems that Transduality makes you be beyond the dual state of the world and its concepts. In that case, it would be nearly impossible to interact with a character that is beyond the duality of the verse as there's really nothing with which you can interact at all. Also, this would grant resistances to basically all abilities in verse for obvious reasons.
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Beyond what type of nonexistence? Type 1 or type 2? Type 2 what anos possesses is anyways beyond type 1
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Type 2.
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can you give sources that she lacks a concept?
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Can still fighting even when her concept was no more
Abstract Existence (Type 1; Is the embodiment of something conceptless), Nonexistent Physiology (Type 2) & Transduality (Type 2; Gods precede reality, and are nameless entities who are incomprehensible for anyone in existence and exist beyond the duality created by the boundaries, being unbounded by the concepts)
Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1; is able to fight even when lacking a concept)
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so what makes her beyond type 2?
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Transduality type 2
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that's quite a vague answer. Type 2 means they don't transcend all duality. Saying "Beyond NEP2 since she has transduality type 2 " is a same as a claiming a dude has regen negation cause he has probability manipulation.
However, anos should have all abilities related to graham, who can regenerate after being erased at a level beyond nothingness, and also resist this regen being negated.
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1. Nothingness is type 1, Graham is Type 2 because he still exist after his concept being nuked, there is no such a thing as beyons type 2.
2. Being transdual already make you beyond normal AE and NEP as AE is 1 and NEP is 0, a binary system. And Transdual type 2 is: Being qualitatively beyond and superior to the nature of all dual systems and concepts within the scope of an entire level of reality
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So anos can hit her
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You are contradicting yourself. First you are saying there is nothing beyond type 2, and then you are saying "She is transdual so she is beyond type 2"? And yes, graham had his concept nuked and reduced to nonexistence, and then had THAT nonexistence nuked. And then graham returned from THAT.
The distinction between type 2 and type 3 is less decisive: some involved in the discussion would like to have a clear distinction between "transcending binary distinctions only on a limited scale while still being bound by higher forms of such" and "transcending binary distinctions on all possible scales within the context of the verse,
So yeah, she is type 2 transduality doesn't automatically makes her "beyond nonexistence type 2"
Eh, it was always op. Anime is op when it comes to hax
Anyway looks inconclusive to me. Hecatia cannot kill anos, and anos cannot touch hecatia.
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What i said that there is no NEP that beyond type 2, Transdual on the other hand is an existence that beyond both normal AE and NEP, Hecatia is type 2 thus she above what Anos faced before, and if the new revision was apply, she will be even more op as type 2 and 3 merge, as they revise it into what similar to Conceptual Manipulation.
Anyway i'm not even Touhou supporter, but until nowmy boi Anos never faced a Transdual. And Transdual is a very vague and broken power
Anyway i'm not even Touhou supporter, but until now
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Which novel is finished?
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'Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha' Mangaka Haruka Kaya Dies
The official website for Square Enix's Manga UP! revealed on Tuesday that Haruka Kaya, the artist for the manga version of the Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Shijou Saikyou no Maou no Shiso, Tensei ***** Shison-tachi no Gakkou e Kayou (The Misfit of Demon King Academy) light novel, died of...
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He didnt, thats the manga, the novel author is alive and still releasing chapters and volumes'Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha' Mangaka Haruka Kaya Dies
The official website for Square Enix's Manga UP! revealed on Tuesday that Haruka Kaya, the artist for the manga version of the Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Shijou Saikyou no Maou no Shiso, Tensei ***** Shison-tachi no Gakkou e Kayou (The Misfit of Demon King Academy) light novel, died of...
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Let's wait for the illustration of the eques haha
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Both parts of volume 10 are out so there won't be Eques illustration
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Seriously, I only know about wn so I don't know anything in Ln, so I'm hoping to have the possibility. My bad
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Pretty sure that's just a supporting feats for her NEP2.
Not really.
Touhou is a game.
