Hearts vs Bill Cipher | 1-0-2 (could do with some votes ngl)

[Brogeefrong]

It is a passive effect

By the shockwaves or the gravity? Both seem to need to be activated in this key

 

[Killerdrone123]

By the shockwaves or the gravity? Both seem to need to be activated in this key

It activates automatically anyway the shockwaves of gravity are for his godslayer key for his UGM key he uses this



Which is passive

 

[Jeeeeepil123]

Also Hearts' Supergravity is not baseline, it gets enhanced in previous keys. Bill is getting crushed.

So his Power Null is based on Gravity Manipulation then huh.
Bill lack's (i already said above), things like law or physics doesn't apply to him.
And you know that Gravity falls under Law & Physics right?

 

[Brogeefrong]

It activates automatically anyway the shockwaves of gravity are for his godslayer key for his UGM key he uses this

Like the Powernull or the shockwaves for the powernull

Which is passive

The link aint opening for me and i cant read japanese

 

[DivineAura44]

Like the Powernull or the shockwaves for the powernull

The link aint opening for me and i cant read japanese

I'm pretty sure the shockwave and all that jazz is just the game being descriptive but I'm not sure so take this with a grain of salt.

The move is passive because the effect of Hearts happens on spawn. The moment you summon him, the effect triggers.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Like the Powernull or the shockwaves for the powernull

The link aint opening for me and i cant read japanese

Aight see if you can see it now



If you can't I am just putting the English translation here

Gravity vortex

As an attacker, seal the Super Attacks of all attackers on both teams whose energy requirement is higher than their team's Hero Energy for that round. As a supporter, greatly slow allies' Charge Impact speed and greatly increase enemies' Charge Impact speed for that round.

 

[Brogeefrong]

Aight see if you can see it now



If you can't I am just putting the English translation here

Gravity vortex

As an attacker, seal the Super Attacks of all attackers on both teams whose energy requirement is higher than their team's Hero Energy for that round. As a supporter, greatly slow allies' Charge Impact speed and greatly increase enemies' Charge Impact speed for that round.

What abilities can it powernull? Mostly wondering if it can null darki ki stuff cause Bill starts with most of that stuf.
Also because Bill is empowered by weridmageddon would it cancel out?

 

[Killerdrone123]

What abilities can it powernull? Mostly wondering if it can null darki ki stuff cause Bill starts with most of that stuf.
Also because Bill is empowered by weridmageddon would it cancel out?

Yep it can power null dark ki and energy that has transmutation also what does weirdmageddon do

 

[Brogeefrong]

Yep it can power null dark ki and energy that has transmutation also what does weirdmageddon do

• Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Physics Manipulation and Empowerment (Weirdmageddon, the event that Bill caused and controls: Ford stated that Bill's power grows stronger with every minute,[2] it is considered to be an apocalypse and can possibly affect the multiverse, it can send waves of Weirdness which can make objects come to life, spawn random beings, transmute beings and objects, change the size of beings to insane degrees, bring game characters and two dimensional beings to the third dimension and several other logic breaking effects.[2] Bill states that "Meaning has no Meaning" and that "Existence is upside down", Madness Bubbles are shown to warp the shows animation by changing the very fabric of reality.[2] after the Bubble is gone he states he will rewrite the reality from any kind of law[7] and causality system,[6] which is supported by his powers being used to play ping-pong with a planet and break logic all together[7])

 

[Brogeefrong]

bump

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Why doesn’t Bill just snap again?

 

[DivineAura44]

Why doesn’t Bill just snap again?

something something passive powernull

 

[Brogeefrong]

so like can weridmageddon’s empowerment override the powernull

 

[DivineAura44]

so like can weridmageddon’s empowerment override the powernull

Idk

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

something something passive powernull

If the powernull is passive and Bill has no way around it what can he even do? That feel stomp-ish if he can't counter it

 

[Brogeefrong]

If the powernull is passive and Bill has no way around it what can he even do? That feel stomp-ish if he can't counter it

so like can weridmageddon’s empowerment override the powernull

 

[Brogeefrong]

Bump

 

[Vietthai96]

Shockwave of Gravity is just name bruhh

It is passive and can null Dark Ki and some other abilities in the verse

Aside from power null, he can instantly using any of his gravity abilities by either wave his hand, snap his finger, or making a T pose. He literally doing T Dio pose and instantly crushed a planet to nothing in the anime. Even just raise a finger is enough to use it

 

[Brogeefrong]

Shockwave of Gravity is just name bruhh

It is passive and can null Dark Ki and some other abilities in the verse

well, what about weridmageddon’s empowerment can it null that? It does Law and Causality stuff

Aside from power null, he can instantly using any of his gravity abilities by either wave his hand, snap his finger, or making a T pose. He literally doing T Dio pose and instantly crushed a planet to nothing in the anime. Even just raise a finger is enough to use it

How does he normally start a fight?

 

[Killerdrone123]

well, what about weridmageddon’s empowerment can it null that? It does Law and Causality stuff

How does he normally start a fight?

Dark ki has causality manip so yes he can null it don't think he can null law manip

He normally starts with his gravity attacks also does bill acts like a god and stuff cause if that so he is definitely going for the kill

 

[Brogeefrong]

Dark ki has causality manip so yes he can null it don't think he can null law manip

Isnt the Dark Ki Causality stuff not applicable to combat?

He normally starts with his gravity attacks

Does the gravity stuff attack or does it only bind them

also does bill acts like a god and stuff cause if that so he is definitely going for the kill

Depends on how he sees Hearts, but he'd probably start the fight with snapping off the bat

 

[Killerdrone123]

Isnt the Dark Ki Causality stuff not applicable to combat?

That's dark factor one not dark ki

Does the gravity stuff attack or does it only bind them

Iirc both he can compress beings and even an entire planet to the point of leaving behind nothing

 

[Brogeefrong]

That's dark factor one not dark ki

Causality Manipulation (Non-combat applicable): Dark Ki can create space-time divisions that can change history itself, creating new events that originally didn't exist in the original history.[1] "Space-time" is synonymous with "timeline" & "history", as altering/distorting history means altering/distorting space-time and vice versa,[34] with history itself being a system of causality in the verse, being described as the very flow of events that are connected together; warping history equating to warping the flow of events (cause and effect) itself. The power[35][17][36] also distorted histories[37] of both Copy Universe & Real Universe 7, connected them together, however by itself it would take a very long time to do so, making this unviable in a combat scenario.
?

Iirc both

Then the fight would probably end in incon cause they both do a hand movement and they both die
so incon fra

 

[Killerdrone123]

Causality Manipulation (Non-combat applicable): Dark Ki can create space-time divisions that can change history itself, creating new events that originally didn't exist in the original history.[1] "Space-time" is synonymous with "timeline" & "history", as altering/distorting history means altering/distorting space-time and vice versa,[34] with history itself being a system of causality in the verse, being described as the very flow of events that are connected together; warping history equating to warping the flow of events (cause and effect) itself. The power[35][17][36] also distorted histories[37] of both Copy Universe & Real Universe 7, connected them together, however by itself it would take a very long time to do so, making this unviable in a combat scenario.
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Then the fight would probably end in incon cause they both do a hand movement and they both die
so incon fra

Ah I confused dark ki one with dark factor that's my bad

 

[Brogeefrong]

bump

 

[Fezzih_007]

could do with some votes ngl

Inco Fra then.