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Discord never did those transmutation feats in an actual fight
look at his fight against time baby
he did not use transmutation
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Discord vs Bill Cipher Rematch
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look at his fight against time baby
he did not use transmutation
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Because Bill already knew what time baby was able to do, and wanted to screw with him?
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What?
It is hard to call it a fight.
He knows Time Baby very, VERY well. Most of the other times he uses his decent hax.
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I'm referring to stuff like this which is easily getting nulled
why are we even talking about transmutation in the first place?? Discord has resistance to that
Discord starts with power null + transmutation
Bill is also terrible at fighting people who have powers similar to him or those who are more creative
look at his fights against dipper, mabel and soon in the mindscape
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No.
he straight up didn't use transmutation against shack
and when he realized nothing would work he still decided to go for punches
even if Bill does use transmutation, Discord can either turn the transmutation blast into balloons or he can come back from the snapping transmutation like this and this
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Telekinesis? Sure.
His transmutation is based off Biological Manip + there is mind hax too anyways.
Show it cuz mostly what you sent is not an actual powernull that negates all of opponents abilities.
He literally powernulled them in the end wdym?
Are we talking about the same guy? Shacktron, who resists all of Bill’s hax by default? Seriously? And he knows that, he straight up saw Dipper and Ford making an anti-weirdness shield.
Okay, but transmutation is not the only thing Bill has y’know.
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not all of his transmutation is based off bio manip
bio manip is going to do nothing anyway since discord can always reform back via shapeshifting/body control/transformation
fair
ok what is something Bill has that will incap Discord
coz Discord resist/has an answer to like 99% of his abilities
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PuffletronGaming
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This turned into power null and transmutation debate lol
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Petrifaction is a subset of Transmutation which Discord resist
The only wincon i see for Bill is to energy project and dura neg
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Discord canonnically was incaped by it. Not a good pro in MLP but I know basics yk.
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that took both luna and celestia to defeat discord and he wasn't even looking when it happened
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Still hax worked + it was the same method after that lol.
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Bill's petrification is not doing anything to Discord. Petrification is literally just transmutation and Discord can petrify himself and undo it just fine. We know he's immune because if you petrify yourself with your own magic, you're trapped as a statue until freed, meaning Discord would need resistance to said power to use it on himself with no issues. The only time it worked was when he was up against his own kryptonite. Not to mention he Can transform into dust and transform back, along with turning into bubbles, and outside of this, he's been able to consistently change his body.
i dont even think energy projection is a wincon seeing how it can easily be avoided
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Scan? And also it could be he himself making a petrification on himself which is revertable as we have a DIRECT ANTI-FEAT from the series which is ESSENTIAL to the plot.
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That's only if Bill is able to trick Discord into making a deal with him and he doesn't even do that in combat
ShionAH
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His energy blasts can hurt mindscape beings, so he could technically just blast Discord soul and mind
Does discord resist his mind being shut off?
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energy blasts are getting turned into paste just like the fight vs sombra
yes
Can keep Luna out of his mind, Acord made his followers resistant to Luna's mind-affecting magic
Discord can remain conscious when turned into random shit and just change himself back. Discord is an abstract being, he doesn't really have a true form since he's a Spirit of Chaos. So unless Bill is affecting that abstract form, I dont think his mind is being affected here
no one said it worked because of the power of friendship what???
it worked because Celestia and Luna literally had the elements of harmony, one of the strongest artifacts ever, something that is opposite to discord
we saw discord petrify himself, get turned into dust, bubbles and he turned out fine but the elements of harmony>>>
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It didn’t work because “Power of Friendship” it worked because the Elements are Discord’s literal opposite. Not only are they shown to reverse and nullify his powers. But they represent Order and Harmony, whereas Discord represents Chaos and Disharmony. We even see in the IDW comics when Discord turns himself into the Spirit of Order, Accord, The Elements were completely useless against him. The reason he was able to be petrified with the Elements is because they are his literal conceptual opposite, and seal his powers away.
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Book of Bill.
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I'm starting think that Bill stomps.
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I've seen some pretty strong buffs coming in The Book of Bill Cipher.why
Anyway I'm still rooting for my boy Discord
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How strong?I've seen some pretty strong buffs coming in The Book of Bill Cipher.
Anyway I'm still rooting for my boy Discord
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Still ain't beating Goku fr
ShionAH
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Bill got salty he was losing and bro literally wrote a book to spite Discord
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FrBill got salty he was losing and bro literally wrote a book to spite Discord
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Bill has transduality now
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RealBill got salty he was losing and bro literally wrote a book to spite Discord
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Is book of bill gonna be a seperate profile????
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You mean the book itself?
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