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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Also I’m in strong agreement that they are not actual universes, beam could physically reach one from another, so a big no for that.

On the other hand, does anyone scale to the speed of the beam? Maybe Alastor dodged it but don’t remember.
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Nobody, or so it seems. Even Emily couldn't dodge it when it was sweeping.
 
Phoenks said:
This is massive cope to try and save a statement that is massively contradicted. Also she could just as well be saying "their own universes" in the sense of them being their own worlds with their own societies
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do you even have proof of this?
 

How do you quantify the beam's power for destroying Heaven's shield, given that distance? Can you calculate that if we assume a minimum durability for the shield?


TheOrangeGuy09 said:
On the other hand, does anyone scale to the speed of the beam? Maybe Alastor dodged it but don’t remember.
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I just rewatched the scene. Emily reached Alastor before the beam, which was already shot, but she was probably closer to him. You could maybe measure the distance based on the beam's timeframe, other than that it's pretty iffy, cause when she saw the beam was about to hit her, she couldn't dodge it.
 
Phoenks said:
massively contradicted
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Sorry, where's the contradiction? Vivzie says:

"The way we see it is, these two universes are connected, but they almost feel like their own realms, which is how characters can portal between them."

Then follows it up later with:

"like two different planets in a lot of ways — that's kind of how we treat them."

"That means Heaven is physically accessible from Hell, not just via portals, but by traversing physical space."

The literal description is that they are two universes that are connected, and are like planets which is why they can be travelled physically. I don't see any contradiction at all.
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
Also didn't expect my boy Shok.wav to be so strong!
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Vel also texted Shok.wav and used it's barks
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Mythic381 said:
Sorry, where's the contradiction? Vivzie says:

"The way we see it is, these two universes are connected, but they almost feel like their own realms, which is how characters can portal between them."

Then follows it up later with:

"like two different planets in a lot of ways — that's kind of how we treat them."

"That means Heaven is physically accessible from Hell, not just via portals, but by traversing physical space."

The literal description is that they are two universes that are connected, and are like planets which is why they can be travelled physically. I don't see any contradiction at all.
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beam fires from hell to heaven -> no spatial/temporal separation required to be treated as spatial-temporal realms on the wiki

the beam is finite in size, we can even calc its size based on the surroundings. When it hits Heaven's barrier, which encompasses all of Heaven, the beam has a size that can be used to estimate the entire size of Heaven itself -> Heaven is not even close to universal in size based on visuals

Vivzipop says herself that she treats the realms like planets -> this contradicts them being universes and also aligns far better with the visuals of them

Viv says herself that both realms are physically accessible to one another, through literal "physical space" -> again disproving any separation needed for them to be treated as universes on the wiki, also making it clear that these celestial bodies we see are physical bodies that we should be capable of calculating based on the visuals


Can we be honest about this?
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Vel also texted Shok.wav and used it's barks
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God Vel's gallery section is going to be so crazy. I wonder what my final number will be.

ShionAH said:
Where would yall scale Abel? He has that dawg in him
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I cannot confirm or deny if Abel is 11-C or High 1-A until he has been one-shot by random fodder or until the agenda supports it.

"I'm a high ranking angel"

Shut up!
 
DaReaperMan said:
The fact that someone could fire a weapon from Hell to Heaven, which is visible in the sky? That's pretty damning for them being separate universes.
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i will argue that fictional verses have problems to portray sizes, AND MANY TIMES, it was shown to be a problem.
like, the number of examples i could came up with, it will be almost unfair to even say them
 
ShionAH said:
Where would yall scale Abel? He has that dawg in him
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I'm not sure if you can scale him to anything, but I'd put my money on him being comparable but weaker than Adam (At least when he gets mad). I actually think he and Cain will be relevant in season 3 basketball triple
 
ShionAH said:
I've heard theories that Lute will manipulate to slowly make Abel and Adam 2.0, when he becomes that and somehow dogwalks Alastor do NOT come back to this side
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Well, Vivziepop told me that Adam's soul helped Abel at the end of season 2, and Lute will find a way to get his soul in Abel's body in season 3, and we'll have zombie Adam and Lute as the main antagonists with Cain being the one who defeats them
 
Phoenks said:
Vivzipop says herself that she treats the realms like planets -> this contradicts them being universes and also aligns far better with the visuals of them
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no, she says that the realms are like planets, like implies similarities, not outright confirmation, she does not say this when reffering to them has universes, SHE OUTRIGHT SAYS they are universes.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Two wrongs do not make a right pal...
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minus plus minus makes plus, what do you mean?it is mathematics (althought again, it is still a problem for many other verses who have this issue, yet they are allowed to have them...because...yes?)
 
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