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Hax Layer Evaluation Thread

Would this count as 1 layer of plot manipulation or not?

In the verse I’m reading, there’s a massive wall known as the Final Wall that surrounds the entire world. Its primary function is to record everything within the world, including the plot itself.

Manipulating the Final Wall allows users to control the plot, erase conclusions, or rewrite events. Some characters have had their identities and concepts erased from the Wall’s records, which implies they passively resist plot manipulation tied to the Wall’s system.

However, the verse also has a superior being, whose dream encompasses everything, including the Final Wall. Even those erased from the Wall’s records remain part of the superior being’s dream and are still subject to its overarching plot.

Both the Wall and the superior being are on the same tier (not sure if it will make any difference)
 
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Alright, I'll try to prove that layers exist for Cultivation Realms and stages of the cultivation realm for the novel "Journey of the Fate Destroying Emperor", since I'm making profiles for them, and a blog for their realms as well.

Before I say anything, there is a UES in this novel, and that is Spiritual Qi, and its derivatives. General rule of thumb is that the higher your cultivation realm, the more Qi you have (or its derivatives, ie Origin Essence, Blood Qi, etc...), and as such, the stronger you are.

Additionally, here are the realms and the amount of levels/stages they have, from the first to the last:
1. Body Refining Realm (12 levels, usually)
2. Divine Sea Realm (3 stages, Lake of Origin, Sea of Origin, and Ocean of Origin)
3. Divine Altar Realm (4 stages, Low, Middle, High, and Peak)
4. Supernatural Realm (This stage technically has different system, defined by patterns, of which there are 50, but it still uses similar stuff to previous realms: Low, Middle, High, and Peak)
5. Divine Body Realm (Three stages, Human, Earth, and Heaven, with the heaven stage having 9 layers/levels)
6. Primordial Spirit Realm (5 stages, Yin God, Yin-Yang Reversal, Yang God, Shackle Removing and Three Immortal Souls)
7. Void Shattering Realm (4 stages, Law Comprehension, Law Path, Law Body and Law Manifestation; This is the stage where Law/Concept layering starts)
8. Saint Realm (3 stages, Dao Sapling, Young Dao Tree and Mature Dao Tree)
9. Supreme Realm (Massive shitfest, since there's technically a huge difference between even those in the same realm. So, ignore this)
9.5 Quasi-Emperor Realm (No known stages, but can fodderize armies of Supreme Realm cultivators)
10. Emperor/Immortal Venerable/Dao Ancestor (A huge can of worms that I'll have to make another comment later on when I get to it, just know that the difference between an Emperor and a Quasi-Emperor is a difference of 25 Great Realms, and the difference between a Quasi-Emperor and strong Immortal Venerable/Dao Ancestor is a literal infinite difference, as the latter can move at infinite speed, and unleash infinite AP attacks. FYI, Immortal/Dao ancestors are below Emperors)
11-13. Forget about them. They are huge realms that'll tackle later on in the future when I want to make the layering for them.

One of the first showcases of layers were with the Young Emperor Aura of Wang Wei. When his Shadow Emperor Aura was unleashed, many disciples were forced to their knees and kneeled before him, not daring to look at him. This When he got out of the final level of the Pagoda trial, his Young Emperor Aura solidified and allowed it to affect all the disciples, even those who could resist it before. The only exception if the Contemporary Disciples, with the strongest being at the 12th level of the Body Refining Realm. For context, there are 12 levels for the Body Refining Realm, with the Realm being the first one out of 13 (technically more) realms. And the reason they resisted, as specified, is because of their cultivation level, despite the fact that there were cultivators in the same realm but at lower levels being affected.

Then, there's Wang Wei's Powernull, which can destroy the cultivation level of other people, but they have to be weaker than him in strength, ie those stronger would just not be affected. This is stated once more here. This is while he was still in the Body Refining Realm. Should also be mentioned that stronger, when it comes to cultivation, isn't just physical strength, but mind and soul as well.

Now, for Divine Altar Realm (3rd Realm), these cultivators can release oppressive pressure that crushes everyone else down, yet they can fight each other without a problem. However, Wang Wei can use a powerful attack that releases pressure and causes even those cultivators to crash down, and said that anyone with low cultivation level were crashed down, with the exception of Supernatural Realm (4th realm), because those cultivators had a higher quality of Origin Qi.

Su Ai, a cultivator in the Divine Sea Realm (2nd Realm), known for her charm abilities, cannot affect a lot of cultivators due to their powerful spirits/souls. That includes the Generals, who were also in the Divine Sea Realm Peak just like her. However, it was stated by breaking through the next realm, Divine Alter Realm, she can strengthen her charm abilities.[102] And this was proven that just by breaking through, the generals have lost their mind, even though the difference is only of one level.

Another example is when Divine Altar Cultivators aren't affected by the elemental attacks of Divine Sea Cultivators, meanwhile other ones are affected.

Another showcase of resistances is when Li Jun fought against Iron Fist King. Iron Fist King attacked Li Jun with a spiritual attack, but it only affected him for an instant before disappearing, with the reason being that not only did Li Jun have amazing willpower, but his spirit was also stronger than Iron Fist King. Remember that Divine Altar stage is about cultivating the spirit and mind. This is further confirmed when right after, Iron Fist King was surprised his attack didn't work because his spirit was so strong and it was supposed to work. This showcases that stronger spirit = resistance to attacks from weaker spirits. Meanwhile, when Li Jun injured him with a spiritual attack, he was barely able to do anything and only managed to not lose himself after mutilating himself.

Additionally, it was shown that when Wei reached the lowest threshold of Primordial Spirit Realm power (6th Realm), Ji Su, a Peak Divine Body Realm (5th realm) cultivator, stated that he can escape since Wei wasn't as fast as Primordial Spirit realm. This showcases that even though there is barely a level of difference between the two of them, Ji Su did not even entertain the idea of being able to fight him.

Another showcase of higher cultivation = more layers is the fact when a Shadow Guard decided to use his divine sense to search a cultivator's soul. It was stated that since the cultivator was only at the supernatural realm, while he was at the Divine Body Realm (One realm higher), it was not an issue to search his soul.

Furthermore, it was mentioned that by increasing the spirit/soul's strength, they'd be more resistant to Spiritual attacks and interference. This fact was mentioned right after a Saint Realm (8th Realm) cultivator was mind controlled/corrupted by Baleful aura of his surrounding. Keep in mind that, starting at the Divine Altar Realm, Cultivators started to cultivate the mind and soul rather than the body.

Another showcase is when Li Jun and his group needed to use Heaven-Grade tailsman to hide the people, because he mentioned that the Supreme Gods were Void Shattering Realm, so they need Heaven-Grade, implying that higher the cultivation, the stronger the tailsman is needed to be to affect them.[107]

Again, it was shown that despite the opposing army against Li Jun being at least 20 times greater in terms of number, they were still outclassed due to the fact that Li Jun's army was made of Supernatural Realm Cultivators, who were 4th realm, while the opposing army had majority of 3rd realm.

Another showcase of layering is when it comes to Wang Wei (MC) power to read fate lines. He stated that he can't read the fate lines of other cultivators unless they don't resist, or he overpowers them. This was stated once more when he couldn't copy the fate of his wife since she was too powerful.

Then, there is Di Tian's showing. Di Tian, with the strength of a Quasi-Emperor (9.5th Realm), was able to force other True Monarchs (Supreme Realms, 9th Realm) to their knees via his pressure alone, even though the difference isn't even a full realm difference.

This one is for tailsman, but it still shows layering since tailsman's powerful is also using the whole realm power. It was stated that even if two talismans were of equal level, like a Quasi-Emperor Void Blocking Tailsman (Blocks space to prevent teleportation) and Void Escaping talisman (Used for teleportation), the latter would still take a while to actually escape, unless it was of a higher level.

Another showcase is with Wang Wei's shackles of fate, which changes history itself. It was shown that the only reason his Shackles of Fate worked on Di Tian (Same Realm, but higher stage, more strength), despite the large gap in strength, is because of his powerful soul and its quality.

Now, one of the more convincing showcases is with Su Ya (Villain) bloodline technique, Su Ya stated that this curse of her was so terrifying because it could ignore levels, indicating that higher levels can have resistances to lower leveled attacks.

There are plenty more, tbh, as these are just a few snippets/feats from only 400 chapters of the novel (Of which there are 1300+ chapters), and even then, these are not all the feats.

Now, for layering, I purpose that every stage/level should be a layer, and of course, resist the attacks of previous cultivation realm, with few exceptions. You can check the blog for general abilities of Cultivation realms. Albeit not all of them are there, yet.

If these aren't enough, just tell me, so I can look for more scans/feats.

Also, obviously, I'll only index abilities that have been shown for layering, so they can apply to the stages.
 
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It's my first time trying this out so let's see

Natsuhiko destroyed the Clock that governs time, which results in time being forever stopped in the mortal realm. A few characters like Tsukasa, Akane and Teru are shown to be unaffected by the time stop, which grants them resistance to time stop. However, when Akane stops time on both Tsukasa and Teru, they're both affected. I believe this should grant Akane 1 layer to his time stop, and 1 layered resistance to time stop to Mirai for being stated to be unaffected by Akane's time stop, and Kako aswell by scaling to Mirai since they work the same, they just govern different aspects of time.

Though at least Teru is shown to still be able to keep conscious, so this should probably grant him a limited layered resistance.
 
Bumpty since I want to make a profile for a character soon.

So, I have found stuff for Immortal Venerable (Above Quasi but below Dao Ancestor), Dao Ancestor (Above Immortal but below Emperor), and Third Class Emperors (Weakest Emperors).

So, the difference between the stages above Quasi is stated below;
The book theorized the vast difference between the Quasi-Emperor Realm and the Great Emperor Realm because there should be at least 30 to 40 Great Cultivation Realms between these two Tiers. For example, there should be at least 15 great realms–not small stages in a realm–between Quasi-Emperor and Immortal Venerable, 25 great realms for Dao Venerables, and over 40 realms for a Third-Class Emperor. However, the Heaven Will allows cultivators to skip all these realms without any repercussions, hence the vast difference in strength between Mortal and Immortal Tier cultivators.
So, Immortal beings are 15 to 60 layers above Quasi (Since it is Great Realm not small stages, and smallest realm has like 4 stages), Dao Ancestor have 25-100 layers above Quasi, and Third Class is either 40-160 layers above Quasi or just 0 since they are considered Higher D even by Dao Ancestors

Additionally, for proof between each stage being a layer at the very least is the fact that 1-Root Dao Ancestors are hopeless against 2-Dao Ancestors;
Wang Wucheng looked at the young man before him and sighed. "You indeed have the strength of 2-Root Dao Ancestor."Wang Wei smiled before saying: "Can you show the power of each root?" "Sure," said Wang Wucheng before waving his hand to manifest an enormous hand manifested before him. "How do you feel?" "I feel like I could not withstand five attacks." "Most 3-Root Dao Ancestors could defeat 2-Roots with one attack. You can survive more than one because of your law and the many ways you have to defend yourself."Wang Wucheng then used another attack, but a more powerful one. "That's 4-Root." Wang Wei nodded; he wouldn't survive one attack.
As such, there's a difference between each stage. Immortals are the same as one level difference means the higher level easily slaughter lower.
Additionally, I should mention that Void Shatter and above are all about using concepts as attacks.

Also, it was stated that a difference of 0.9% Grand Dao (Smth like power source of everything) is enormous, which makes sense since even just increasing Grand Dao by 0.1-0.3% takes countless trillions of years
"You should know there are differences between the roots–especially the 5-Root Level. The difference between controlling 4% and 4.9% of the Grand Dao Source is enormous."
 
Could these be used fo layers ?
Damn... This guy’s good... Hajime thought to himself. Red sparks ran down his arms as he desperately tried to keep up with Oscar. It was taking everything he had to keep the obelisk from falling apart. Even though he was the greatest Synergist alive in the present, he was having a tough time figuring out how to repair the seal. In fact, when he’d seen how complicated and precise the layers of magic circles that composed the seal were, he’d almost wanted to give up. To make matters worse, the obelisk itself was created from some ore he’d never seen before, and it was a hundred times more resistant to magic than sealstone.

Every time he repaired one section of the obelisk, another gave way, and when he repaired that yet another section fell apart. It was like trying to solve a puzzle that kept changing itself.
 
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first time trying this but

-Mister Chief is an invisible monster and monsters, the Power Rangers and the command center can all see her (Baseline)

-Now a new character called the Phantom Ranger appears and his whole thing is being invisible, monsters, the command center and the Rangers cannot see him (The only way is via a weakness that his invisibility has when he is moving)

which is also boosted by his Space-Ship also capable of turning invisible without the Rangers being able to see it and the Command Center being unable to detect it
(1 layer)

Phantom Rangers gets 1 layer of invisibility
quoting this because it'll be important as i found further showings that will boost the layer chain of invisibility
following proposals:
ok so it was previously accepted that the Rangers can see invisible enemies so they have baseline Enhanced Senses (Invisibility)

Now a new character called Erutan can become visible only to those he wants to speak to (classic trope). In the scene he wants to speak to TJ so the Red Ranger can see him but not the rest of the Rangers. This gives Erutan 1 layer of invisibility

Important makes the monsters can see Erutan just fine without issues, so monsters get 1 layer of invisibility/enhanced senses

Now as accepted above, monsters cannot see the Phantom Ranger which gives him 2 layers of invisibility

The Phantom Ranger can also see the enemies that shift into the dimension of invisibility making them invisible to everyone (monsters, rangers, command center etc,) so that give him 2 layers of ES

Rangers - baseline ES
Erutan - 1 layer invisibility
Monsters - 1 layer of ES
Phantom Ranger - 2 layers of invisibility and ES
Ok so Putties are soul-less creatures made of clay, these creatures are also made without feeling fear or pain.

This is important as the White Rangers are capable of creating an aura around them that can project fear into others and that aura can also effect Putties who as previously mentioned cannot feel fear

Now as seen above the Rangers are not effected by the aura (which also lasts until the White Ranger de-morphs). Important because the Rangers can use their willpower to break free from Rita's magic that projected fear into them
so basically
-White Ranger Aura: 1 layer of fear hax
-Rangers: 1 layer of fear hax resistance
-Rita Repulsa: 2 layers of fear hax
-Rangers: 2 layers of fear hax resistance via willpower
 
Thought that since I had some free time, why not do this as well. Well, just so no one is confused, if you think some of the layers already exist on the character profiles of the verse, that is the ln version, and WN is pretty outdated. Im not even sure if the single layered hax mentioned on the ancient-at-this-point general explanation page was evaluated or not.
So here goes nothing:

Absorption and BFR
BFR layers: Same as absorption, since the working is that the target is BFRed to Rimuru's stomach after getting absorbed. Additionally:

3 layer resistance: Essentially resists any ability he has analyzed, which would naturally include his own abilities
4 layers: Chronos Saltation, which BFRs the target to the end of time and space, still worked on him
4 layer resistance: Any attack he has experienced once wiII get anaIyzed, and wiII not work on him a second time, thus, he shouId have gained resistance to Chronos SaItation

Attack Reflection
Baseline: Via Retaliator, a unique skill
Baseline Resistance: Ultimate Skill Resistance
1 layer: Michael's attack reflection; Michael is an ultimate skill itself thus should be able to reflect attacks from others of its kind.

That is all for now
 
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