Hashirama vs. A (3rd Raikage)

[Ricsi-viragosi]

naruto kmc mode>full kurama>ems madara>hashirama

 

[Gemmysaur]

BRO

Bruh, chill.

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

IF NARUTO KCM GREATER THAN KURAMA BY YOUR LOGIC THAN 3RD RAIKAGE IS STRONGER THAN KCM SINCE HE WAS STRONGER THAN NARUTO AS AN EDO

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

no, kcm was weaker then kurama, kurama is twice kcm.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

it was supposed to be sarcasm

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

let's put it like thies 3rd raikge = 8 tails and 9 tails end of story raikage are very underrated

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

no, 8 tails < half of kurama< full kurama< madara=<hashirama

 

[Mindovin]

Without genjutsu Madara -EMS- stomped by Kurama. Without his mokuton special hax -especially Bijuu- Hashirama defeated by Kurama.

Please don't bring that nonsense.

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

BRO IF 3RD RAIKAGE WAS STRONGER THAN KCM NARUTO AS AN EDO THAN HOW DOES HE EQUAL 8 TAILS

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

dude, madara tanked a bijuudama whitout effort, and hashirama could break his susanoo

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

BRO IF 3RD RAIKAGE WAS STRONGER THAN KCM NARUTO AS AN EDO THAN HOW DOES HE EQUAL 8 TAILS

it was stated in the freaking manga

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

OK YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO ME WHAT'S POWERFUL A NUKE OR A BIJU AND 3RD RAIKAGE COULD TANK A BIJU ALSO HE TOOK NARUTO RASENSHURIKEN AND HIM BEING A EDO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. IF YOU READ THE MANGA VERSION IF HE ONLY SUFFER SCUFF MARKS FROM THE RASENSHURIKEN. IF HE WAS WEAKER HE WOULD'VE BLEW TO PAPERS AND THEN REFORMED BACK

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

but naruto in that form isnt even comparable to hashirama.

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

HASHIRAMA TOOK A BIJU WITH WHAT WOOD STYLE OR HIS ACTUAL BODY SHOW ME A SCAN

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

madara took a bijuudama, hashirama broke the susanoo. its on his page, and unless you make a crt to change that, your argument is invalid

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

WHAT'S MORE POWERFUL A NUKE OR A BIJU

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

a bijuu is, a nuke is 7a at best, bijuu are high 6c

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

what

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

a nuke is not even comparable in power to a bijuudama

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

it was also implied that 3rd raikage tank 8 tails biju also

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

and the 8 tails is weaker then kurama.

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

no shit you're not not getting thepoint 3rd raikage is stronger than kcm naruto

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Cause of why?

Best feat he has is getting beaten by SM naruto and an Outlier where he fights Hachibi

He would get blitzed by KCM just like his Son A and hashirama is far above KCM both in speed and strenght

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

he only use sage to counter 3rd raikage so you're saying sm is stronger than kcm because when naruto was in kcm he wasn't doing against 3rd raikage stop the downplay how was him fighting the hachibi an outlier

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Never said SM>KCM he FRS raikage but he regened he was forced out of KCM as his chakra was running out and he failed to make a mini bijuu bomb

If that isnt an outlier then SM naruto hurting Kurama isnt aswell which Hashi and a shit ton of other characters scale from

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

when naruto was in kcm he wasn't doing shit to 3rd raikage he even admired how great they were indicating he's unstoppable. 3rd raikage >kcm naruto even as an edo and that's saying something

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Kabutos edo are nearly as strong as their live selfes as he perfected the jutsu (That was one of 2000 naruto clones so saying naruto was full power is a lie)

KCM naruto hurt him with 1 attack out of 1 attack he threw

3rd raikage got handled by SM naruto who is weaker than Hashirama by a huge margin

Even if u want to claim 3rd>KCM Hashirama is >KCM2 naruto

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

He brought him at full strenght

A slightly weaker 3rd raikage fought and lost against a slightly weaker SM naruto who is singificantly weaker than Hashi

He had cuts the only damage FRS has consistenly done throughtout the series meaning he took full damage

Anime is secondary Manga is prime canon

Tsunade said Naruto isnt allowed to use it cause narutos chakra pathways were getting cut cause of FRS as he didnt know how to throw at the time and he was taking some damage aswell

Also what is Celluar cutting damage gonna do to an Edo tensei considering it just durability ignoring which Edo easily regenerates 3rd raikage is no where near kurama

Any proof in saying it can break it? If u argue with that outlier garbage im just gonna say this

SM naruto who hurt Kurama didnt even slightly crack it with a Oodama rasengan

Strongest spear what kinda argument is that is just there for artistic flavor same as how Hashirama is a god of shinobi it doesnt mean he is hagoromo or near hagoromos level

Did u know SM narutos rasengan cracked his arm meaning he can clearly damage him and that is where he beat The raikage as he had enough power to deflect his *Strongest spear*

effectively nullifing and stoping his attack (Once again a weaker rasengan than one that didnt to anything to madaras ribcage)

That picture u used for damage is after he already regened most damage

 

[Piccolo_The_Namek_God]

first that sage mode clone had intel you people tend to forget that.and when naruto redirect his attack he just push 3rd finger towards his arms that why 3rd lost if was a paradox and impentrable shield meats the spear. third hell stab can break madara susanoo also. 3rd raikage stalemated the 8 tails due to him being fatigue they had their attacks they fell forward 3rd raikage manage to chop of all 8 tails tails he could've been killed 8 tails it was just for cinematic purpose 3rd has the speed advantage the durability. You realize it was was hinting 8 tails tail beast bomb was the one that gave him the scar in reality it was him meaning that 8 tails attacks wasn't getting through 3rd raikage armoR. WE both can agree this if third raikage would've fought kurama when minato was alive he would've gave kurama a lot of trouble. madara literally said the only things that rivals a susanoo is a tail beast. WITHOUT THAT INTEL naruto woul've died and that's fact and third was being manipulated by kabuto. 3rd is stronger than 8 tails 8 tails attacks didn't even harm 3rd raikage but 3rd spear cut of all it's tails casually. Just cause he stalemated 8 tails was due because of pis 3rd could'nt just aimed for it's head you forgot to realize that 3rd wasn't try to kill it he was just trying to stop it's rampage and accomplish that. vegeta vs goku sayian was it a stalemate know vegeta was stronger he had ozzaru but goku use spirit bomb and vegeta was the first one standing indicating he won