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Hajun
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This is what we need to consider:
Let's just say that Marie is alive and there's countless Hadou Gods around. Hajun's Taikyoku, regardless if he's the Throne God or not, is always infinite or more correctly it lies in the nature of Hajun's Taikyoku to always be higher than his opponent due to his desire. Therefore even if there is a million Hadou Gods, Hajun's Taikyoku will always be higher.
My point is that the Tumor is Hajun's only true weakness. Without it he does not have such Taikyoku always increasing and instead of infinite/always rising its þäíµûÖÕñºµò░ (uncountable).
Let's just say that Marie is alive and there's countless Hadou Gods around. Hajun's Taikyoku, regardless if he's the Throne God or not, is always infinite or more correctly it lies in the nature of Hajun's Taikyoku to always be higher than his opponent due to his desire. Therefore even if there is a million Hadou Gods, Hajun's Taikyoku will always be higher.
My point is that the Tumor is Hajun's only true weakness. Without it he does not have such Taikyoku always increasing and instead of infinite/always rising its þäíµûÖÕñºµò░ (uncountable).
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The Kajiri Kamui Kagura VFB also states that Hajun's Taikyoku will always be higher than his opponents.
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The edit on Hajun having keys for him with the Tumor and w/o is perfectly fine with me, though i am curious if A6C can give some sort of input if possible...
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That was my intention. Nothing else is relevant or negatively affects Hajun other than having the Tumor or not. Because even taking in all those souls didn't affect his Taikyoku value nor did Yatou halting his law. And in Dies Irae/KKK, Taikyoku is all that matters in the Domain of the Gods. With Tumor, Hajun is always > than any Hadou/Gudou God. Without Tumor, he is more manageable but still is the strongest.
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@Venom: Hmm....well if you're saying is true on the tumor, shouldn't the weakness section also be adjusted/modified? It's still read as this, btw; along with the soul thing you said on...
"Weaknesses: Hajun is immensely arrogant and overconfident, he has extremely poor control over the Laws of other Hadou Gods due to the nature of his own, absorbing large quantities of souls will noticeably weaken Hajun, and removing his "Tumor" (A separate being that subconsciously feeds Hajun power) will weaken him immensely, temporally freezing the throne can halt Hajun's Law from being completed."
"Weaknesses: Hajun is immensely arrogant and overconfident, he has extremely poor control over the Laws of other Hadou Gods due to the nature of his own, absorbing large quantities of souls will noticeably weaken Hajun, and removing his "Tumor" (A separate being that subconsciously feeds Hajun power) will weaken him immensely, temporally freezing the throne can halt Hajun's Law from being completed."
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Yes, I did not make such changes because everyone is waiting for more input.
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Fair enough/
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^I'll try.
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So Trexalfa said in chat that he's not interested in lending his opinion here.
He did say that everything that's been said here is pretty much what he would have said. Or to put it simply from what i think he said, he would not be able to offer any more input than what we've discussed til now.
He also said that the tumor is his only weakness.
He did say that everything that's been said here is pretty much what he would have said. Or to put it simply from what i think he said, he would not be able to offer any more input than what we've discussed til now.
He also said that the tumor is his only weakness.
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I cannot say on that, unfortunately. I mean it's still said that he posses Infinite Taikyoku that rises (or just what Venom said of it earlier that's just always gonna be higher than his opponents).
I never recall him transcending it, nah. @HIT
I never recall him transcending it, nah. @HIT
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Whose arguing for High 1-A Hajun tho? I'm fine with Hajun being At least 1-A, but not High 1-A.
I know it's not me cause i never said anything for it for Hajun on that....
I know it's not me cause i never said anything for it for Hajun on that....
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He doesn't transcend Taikyoku. He just breaks the scale. That's the point of his Taikyoku being so ridiculously high. Be it uncountable by default, or always set to be higher than his opponent.
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In that case there is no reason to consider him to be high 1-A, since high 1-A by definition transcend all systems by default
Although it does seem kinda strange that under the same logic under which Hajun is being downgraded, Featherine would be downgraded as well, considering that she needed Bern and Ange to read stories to her
Although it does seem kinda strange that under the same logic under which Hajun is being downgraded, Featherine would be downgraded as well, considering that she needed Bern and Ange to read stories to her
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HIT, why are you assuming anyone here is arguing for High 1-A Hajun? IS it because the Taikyoku thing? Cause Venom said he's not arguing for it, nor is anyone else here.
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Hajun is Taikyoku in a way. His law is Taikyoku and a Hadou/Gudou God is his law. It wouldn't make sense for him to transcend Taikyoku. Taikyoku is transcendent in relation to any form of existence regardless of its complexity.
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Oh....well you should have clarified it earlier cause i was starting to get annoyed with you on that.
But now that you mention, it could probably make some sort of sense to have him as 1-A then, just of a higher degree of it (if that even makes any sort of sense). I think we have characters here of 1-A that are infinitely above another 1-A......i think? Gotta go through them when i get the chance and time....
What do everyone else think of this?
But now that you mention, it could probably make some sort of sense to have him as 1-A then, just of a higher degree of it (if that even makes any sort of sense). I think we have characters here of 1-A that are infinitely above another 1-A......i think? Gotta go through them when i get the chance and time....
What do everyone else think of this?
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Featherine is not High 1-A because she is infinitely stronger than another 1-A. She is High 1-A for multiple other reasons, one of which being she's pretty much reached as high as one can climb without completely losing themselves and joining with the Creator, which is the only thing that limits her (and is also the reason she uses a device to maintain a sense of self).
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During her talk with Ange it was mentioned infinity doesn't even have any meaning to Featherine.
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Btw, we are going to really have to write an explanation in regards to why Hajun is rated just 1-A when he is literally over infinite times stronger than the rest of the Hadou gods.
So, the term "At least 1-A" would not exist, in any case then, correct?
So, the term "At least 1-A" would not exist, in any case then, correct?
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