Hades v.s Salt Redux

[ABoogieYesSir]

Speed equalized, both at full power

The Lord of The Underworld:

The Sun in The Sea: ZacharyGrossman273

Inconclusive: 0

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Ooohhh this is a close one

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

f

FINALLY!!

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I mean, Salt being a type 1 abstract negs anything non-lethal hades can do, but hades has conceptual manipulation of his own


Salt has passive law manipulation with judgement sunlight tho

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

I mean Hades with his cosmo has non-physical interact so..

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Hades' passives are Attack Reflection and Perception Manipulation (unless he has other passive I don't recal at the moment).

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Also, if I'm not mistaken, a hit from Hades' sword is Atomic Destruction + Soul Destruction + Void Manipulation + BFR + Curse Manipulation + Mid-Godly Regenerationn Negation

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I mean

Salt is a type 1 abstract

And Void and Soul hax are nothing new to Salt

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

What about the rest? Legit asking, I don't know anything about Salt.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Also, if I'm not mistaken, a hit from Hades' sword is Atomic Destruction + Soul Destruction + Void Manipulation + BFR + Curse Manipulation + Mid-Godly Regenerationn Negation

• Macro-Quantic Destruction actually. Also, pretty sure Hades can hit Abstracts.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Wow!

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I mean hades can probably kill salt but

Salt has a slightly higher chance of winning so I vote him

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

So, Hades throws his sword?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Idk honestly this is close

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Can we just say he slashes you with it too?

 

[Wokistan]

That's not very nice

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Well he's not Reinhard lol.

 

[The_Causality]

Hades can't hit Type 1 Abstract.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Not true

 

[The_Causality]

Also, Hades's profile became a bit messy since it scale literally all his haxes from other cannonic story which contradicts themselves. Yeah the current Hades on the profile can't hit abstract, but the one in G (which is 2-A tho) can.

That why we need to organize SS revision, now the scaling of Hax became really weird and make no sense for the current Hades from the main story.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

It is confirm that non-physical interaction can damage abstract existence.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Hades can hit Type 1 abstracts or nah?

 

[The_Causality]

I guess link can hit Madoka then? There exist different levels of Non-Physical interaction, it varies to simply hit things like ghost to the most abstract things, all characters with this ability can't hit abstract without feat. Anyway, Unfollowing for now.

 

[VanMeliodas]

In Fact everything depends on whether the manipulation of emptiness would be suprising something aganist abstraction

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Here are your answers if Hades can effect an Abstract Existence:

• Saint Seiya gods have Abstract Existence Type 2: https://imgur.com/a/OlzCR
• Reason why they have Type 2 Abstract Existence: Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or regenerate indefinitely thanks to it. Destroying the abstraction is required to permanently kill those characters, but they can still be affected without directly altering it.

• Hades would have easily killed Athena if he wasn't holding back

 

[Paul_Frank]

Type two literally says they can still be affected without affecting the concept so that doesn't prove hades can interact with a type 1 abstract

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

come.. on *gasp man..

 

[Moritzva]

Interesting. Will vote soonish.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

• It appears Hades can't effect an Abstract Existence Type 1.

• He only has an concept manipulate type 2 and 3=Hades is the God of the Underworld, the underworld being a concept of "What happens after death" the Underworld fell apart when he died.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

BUMP

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

BUMP

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

If Hades can't affect the other guy then it becomes a stomp.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Ok