HA DIO vs Spam Character 1

[Yobo_Blue]

No!!! Kal! He has to explain now!

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Did Dio know about Valentine's power when he erased him across the multiverse?

Yeah. He does that normally anyway.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I still wonder why everyone keeps adding the "acausal" when it's irrelevant as far as time stop is concerned

I still don't understand why we list acausality as ignoring fate manipulation. Resisting your past being changed =/= resisting your future being changed

 

[Axl233]

BB can move in Imaginary Space where time does not exist

Time stop is ignored.

Eveen 2A time stop that can stop guys that can move where time is erased?cause if she does Dio could still just erase her.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

She doesn't ignore DIOS stop

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

BB uses higher dimensional perspective to see what Dio plans on doing

BB doesn't want none of that shit and deletes him from the Moon Cell

 

[Yobo_Blue]

@Monarch

Acasuals ignore that precog type

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

He resists existence erasure.

May end up scorchrd.

Twoh nulled anyway.

 

[Kaltias]

@Monarch

It depends from the acausality I think.

If it's the one that can "tank" causality being rewritten it's because it's almost the same (like, "I win because I necessarily do" and "I win because that's my fate" are functionally the same thing).

If it's only resisting paradoxes, idk.

Not the place to discuss that tho

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Acausals don't ignore precog

 

[Yobo_Blue]

@Monarch

That actually depends as well. It's because by definition Acasuals exist solely within the time yup fight them in and have no beginning or end

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

That's our definition, one that acausals in fiction do not necessarily reside by.

Regardless, I still don't know why he is listed as completely acausal, and not just time paradox immune and/or resistant to GER's causality manip.

 

[Kaltias]

Ignoring precog isn't a natural thing that comes with acausality. If the reasons why you are acausal entail precog immunity, it's a bonus.

Unless HA DIO has a reason to bypass it, precog still works

 

[Yobo_Blue]

J-Man?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

D4C=/=paradox of temporal variety

 

[Axl233]

Okay now talking serious,unless BB have a something to stop Dio nulling her at the start of the battle then he stomps because she does not have counters to 2A hacks.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I mean, neither did Zeno

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

J-Man?

Yeah?

Dio tanks any temporal paradox. (Jotaro also does).dio also tanks (except not immune) existence erasure.

Also twoh nulls.

Precog may work.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

So then he's got TPI, not acausality... And BB kills him by locking in a future where he dies. Or her past selves do. Or her future selves do. Whatever.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

He does.

He laughs at causility mamipulation also.

Exists outside the flow man.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Great counter argument

"Resistance to causality manipulation"

Less hippy speak, more explaining please?

 

[PaChi2]

Acausals don't ignore precog

Technically... it does.

If you are beyond causality, you are beyond linear cause-effect, and unless the precog goes beyond "seeing the future", you wouldnt see the effects of an acausal dude because they are not linear. Think of it as immesurable speed.

But that's super high tier.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Great counter argument
"Resistance to causality manipulation"

Less hippy speak, more explaining please?

What?

TPI + resisting causality manipulation is always acausality. This would be a double standatd

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

>Exists outside the flow.

 

[Schnee_One]

I still wonder why everyone keeps adding the "acausal" when it's irrelevant as far as time stop is concerned

Because people keep telling me that.

 

[PaChi2]

Less hippy speak, more explaining please?

Monarch: Im hilarious and you will quote everything I say.

I almost choked.

 

[Schnee_One]

**** your Nappa references

 

[PaChi2]

**** your Nappa references

>Nappa

Excuse you? It's Super Kami mega ultra omega alpha Guru.

 

[SchroKatze]

Sigh. One of the biggest glass cannons. Can DIO rewrite himself whem he is dead by atomization via sheer AP difference? Because stands are erased if the user dies, and saying he will survive being atomized with a sigh from BB its a bit... Bullshit.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Teoh actually can survive alone.

>implying hed ever be hit.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

@Schro

You mean like that time he got hit by a 2-A attack?

 

[Axl233]

Im dont think people are undestanding how one sided this is, dio would just delete the moon cell tho.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Don't think he'd get the chance honestly.

 

[Eficiente]

Heaven DIO ftra.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Don't think he'd get the chance honestly.

He just needs one thought

 

[DMUA]

Dio punches her in the face and she ceases to exist from time, space, and the multiverse in it's entirety.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

@J-Man So does she.

@DMUA BB dodges the punch?

And that brings me back to my question. When he erased Valentine across the multiverse, was he actually trying to specifically to bypass D4C?

 

[Axl233]

Don't think he'd get the chance honestly.

is it in character for him to either time stops or null all the powers of the enemy straight out the bat and since both of these abilities happens on a instant im dont see how he doesnt have all the chances in the world unless BB is faster then the concept of instant.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Dii 3/4 of his fights had him overwriting the entire area.

Or bfr and drag an enemy within his world.

 

[Axl233]

Dio punches her in the face and she ceases to exist from time, space, and the multiverse in it's entirety.

here is the thing he doesnt need to punch things to warp.