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HA DIO tries to get 4th High 8-C

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What matters is that it has the same effect girm resist said effect doesn't matter if it's the same ability or not
Same effects but with a completely different nature. You're literally just saying "doesn't matter" without elaboration except with the "same effects" thing that was already debunked.
 
Same effects but with a completely different nature. You're literally just saying "doesn't matter" without elaboration except with the "same effects" thing that was already debunked.
this is the case with magic, you can resist the effects of magic without resisting magic itself and still be able to take those effects, same with rw in this case rn
 
Same effects but with a completely different nature. You're literally just saying "doesn't matter" without elaboration except with the "same effects" thing that was already debunked.
Debunks by who?
Since when was your word law?
Im saying this Because im taking DT's response for the EE resistance he said that it EE resistance would give some sort of resistance to soul destruction
So it would be the same thing 2 different abilities that have the same effect will be resisted if someone resist said effect
 
also he would have to get past the wireframe to affect grimmon's soul so he is doing jack all to grimmon's soul
 
no resistance provided, this thread alread finished. why people come here just to say "he resist" when he dosen't?
 
no resistance provided, this thread alread finished. why people come here just to say "he resist" when he dosen't?
 
no resistance provided, this thread alread finished. why people come here just to say "he resist" when he dosen't?
he does, cause the wireframe is a 5D in the transcendent of reality and not just a bigger thing in nature, so to say that dio can affect his soul is all kinds of wack
 
this is the case with magic, you can resist the effects of magic without resisting magic itself and still be able to take those effects, same with rw in this case rn
That's a blatant false equivalence since in the game it was stated that these powers are simply an effect of RW, so they're RW as well.
Debunks by who?
The profile:

Reality Overwrite, Existence Erasure, Power Nullification (Allows Heaven DIO to turn whatever he wishes into reality, being able to use it to overwrite/warp people and things out of existence in any dimension by touching them, as well as nullifying attacks, like GER and Tusk Act 4. Valentine himself said that he would have not been able to stop him even if he had had the full Holy Corpse)

enhanced Reality Overwrite, Existence Erasure, and Power Nullification (His Reality Overwrite is superior to before and can overwrite things without touching them)


Plus it should be obvious, resisting matter manipulation doesn't make someone resist said matter hax but done from RW
Im saying this Because im taking DT's response for the EE resistance he said that it EE resistance would give some sort of resistance to soul destruction
So it would be the same thing 2 different abilities that have the same effect will be resisted if someone resist said effect
Another false equivalence, nice
 
bring me a crt or a knowledgeable mod in said concept that says otherwise
DragonMaster didn't oppose here so it's not wrong. Also you've missed all the HA DIO threads if you unironically say that.
Mind explaining how that's a false equivalence?
Once you can actually process how all the powers work differently and such a generalization is wrong then we can talk about this.
 
You just said that they are 5D, which confirm it's only a factor of range
that was a simplification of it, not actually saying that they are 5D, just like how you can call the gods from magi endless D or people from 07 10/11D even though there are no statements calling them that
 
that was a simplification of it, not actually saying that they are 5D, just like how you can call the gods from magi endless D or people from 07 10/11D even though there are no statements calling them that
I mean it's range either way from what I understand to the CRT of Hax
 
Mind explaining how that's a false equivalence?
Also because EE is a superior version of Soul Manipulation, so resisting it means resisting Soul Destruction but not viceversa. Same applies here, the RW covers soul hax, but since is a superior version of it due of warping the reality of the target instead of just messing with their soul, so it is superior in nature.
 
I mean it's range either way from what I understand to the CRT of Hax
it isnt, what it means by that if you have a statement of something being 5 dimensional and it qualifies for it, it is just uncountably larger in size than things below it, so if you were to affect that thing with your hax it would just be range, but something that is transcendent of reality is not just bigger but is greater in quality than the things below it, so to affect it your thing would be "higher D" in potency
 
Also because EE is a superior version of Soul Manipulation, so resisting it means resisting Soul Destruction but not viceversa. Same applies here, the RW covers soul hax, but since is a superior version of it due of warping the reality of the target instead of just messing with their soul, so it is superior in nature.
what is this argument about either way?
 
it isnt, what it means by that if you have a statement of something being 5 dimensional and it qualifies for it, it is just uncountably larger in size than things below it, so if you were to affect that thing with your hax it would just be range, but something that is transcendent of reality is not just bigger but is greater in quality than the things below it, so to affect it your thing would be "higher D" in potency
You are referring to higher plane? Wasn't this still in the revision?
 
DragonMaster didn't oppose here so it's not wrong. Also you've missed all the HA DIO threads if you unironically say that.
Read what i said again, you also know some stuff can be wrong even in vs threads
Once you can actually process how all the powers work differently and such a generalization is wrong then we can talk about this.
Can you explain to me how affecting the soul via various means is such a generalization? Even though it has the same effect
Also because EE is a superior version of Soul Manipulation, so resisting it means resisting Soul Destruction but not viceversa. Same applies here, the RW covers soul hax, but since is a superior version of it due of warping the reality of the target instead of just messing with their soul, so it is superior in nature
DT also said in the same example that resisting soul destruction would help against EE so that's straight up wrong
 
For the 5D stuff, in this wiki simply being higher Dimensional means tanking all the lower D hax unless these have feats of affecting such beings
 
Read what i said again, you also know some stuff can be wrong even in vs threads
The hypocrisy. Now staff is wrong if they contradict you.
Can you explain to me how affecting the soul via various means is such a generalization? Even though it has the same effect
Different nature in power, simple.
DT also said in the same example that resisting soul destruction would help against EE so that's straight up wrong
Still doesn't debunk the whole RW / Soul hax difference.

Oh I still disagree with that since the way that they resist it should let them resist it even if it is from rw
Already countered, so invent another excuse instead of just repeating yourself.
What is even happening right now...
That's why I've told to close this ffs
 
With Zencha's logic now resisting regular BFR makes you resist temporal BFR despite both are different but no, "sAmE EfFeCt!"
 
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