Guilty Gear Scaling Revision (Part 2.5): STRIVE Slayer & Zato-1 Revision

[CloverDragon03]

This is sort of a follow-up to this thread, but not quite. It really just involves two characters in STRIVE, who got new scaling thanks to the new DLC. Long-story short: Slayer dropped recently, and he brought some new scaling with him - both for himself and for Zato-1. Let's check it out.

Slayer:

• Nagoriyuki admits that he still cannot surpass Slayer
• Zato-1 notes that Slayer hasn't dulled a bit
• Slayer supports this by saying that the years have made him stronger

Zato-1:

• Zato-1 fights both Nagoriyuki and Slayer at once
• Slayer is impressed by Zato-1's performance in said fight
• Zato-1's current strength is such that Slayer can use his full power against him

The bottom line is that I believe Slayer and Zato-1 should scale to a full High 5-A rating, as Nagoriyuki fully scales to this tier, Slayer surpasses him, and Zato-1 is strong enough to battle the two of them simultaneously and get Slayer to use his full power. I've made a sandbox of how this would look, linked here.

That's about it from me, so now I'll open the floor to discussion!

Agree: DarkGrath, DarkDragonMedeus, Planck69, LephyrTheRevanchist, Theglassman12
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Looks good

 

[CurrySenpai]

Agree with the thread

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Sure.

 

[Theglassman12]

looks ok

 

[Planck69]

Looks good to me

 

[Kenny Mccormick 0v0]

I agree

 

[DarkGrath]

I agree. As you know, the scaling thread was made prior to Slayer's story being introduced to STRIVE, hence why he had no such scaling from it. If I may say as an aside - it was very cringe of Xrd to nerf him so heavily for the sake of the plot, and I'm glad he's back up to where he was before.

It's a minor detail, but since it was introduced in the new Slayer story as well, I feel it may as well also be added - in one of his conversations with Nagoriyuki, Slayer states that he remembers the look on Nagoriyuki's face when he first tasted wine, and that this was 683 years ago. Slayer's current profile says his age is "at least 200, likely thousands of years old", so I think this can be adjusted to "at least 683, likely thousands of years old" with the Slayer story mode as a reference.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Changing Slayer's age sounds good

 

[CloverDragon03]

It's a minor detail, but since it was introduced in the new Slayer story as well, I feel it may as well also be added - in one of his conversations with Nagoriyuki, Slayer states that he remembers the look on Nagoriyuki's face when he first tasted wine, and that this was 683 years ago. Slayer's current profile says his age is "at least 200, likely thousands of years old", so I think this can be adjusted to "at least 683, likely thousands of years old" with the Slayer story mode as a reference.

With a 5-0 vote for my proposed changes, they can safely be considered accepted. But, I'd like to revisit this. Slayer accurately recalls his memories with Nagoriyuki from this long ago, so should he receive Photographic Memory for this?

@DarkDragonMedeus @Planck69 @LephyrTheRevanchist @Theglassman12 I'd like your input on this as well, if possible

 

[CurrySenpai]

With a 5-0 vote for my proposed changes, they can safely be considered accepted. But, I'd like to revisit this. Slayer accurately recalls his memories with Nagoriyuki from this long ago, so should he receive Photographic Memory for this?

@DarkDragonMedeus @Planck69 @LephyrTheRevanchist @Theglassman12 I'd like your input on this as well, if possible

I wouldn't think so

 

[CloverDragon03]

I wouldn't think so

How come?

 

[CurrySenpai]

How come?

Recalling things from that fair back wouldn't be photographic memory, imo. Unless it's directly stated that it could be an ability because of his vampirism or whatnot. Just doesn't seem like a notable enough example to equate it to photographic memory.

But I'll wait to see what others think, since it's also not that big of a deal, so I don't mind it's addition.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Yeah it's not a big deal at all, it's just something I remembered that I felt (particularly because it's not a big deal, along with being related to Slayer) should be brought up now

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

With a 5-0 vote for my proposed changes, they can safely be considered accepted. But, I'd like to revisit this. Slayer accurately recalls his memories with Nagoriyuki from this long ago, so should he receive Photographic Memory for this?

@DarkDragonMedeus @Planck69 @LephyrTheRevanchist @Theglassman12 I'd like your input on this as well, if possible

Curry makes sense regarding that.

 

[Theglassman12]

Not sure on Photographic memory for that.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Okay yeah, with that in mind, I'll just apply what is accepted. I definitely see now why Photographic Memory wouldn't work, and with 2 staff disagreements, I don't really want to hold this thread up over something like this. I'll simply concede on that point and apply the accepted changes

 

[CloverDragon03]

I've applied the changes. This can now be closed