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Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) Pre-Crisis Key Creation

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Pre-Crisis Feats

  • MFTL+ | Hal was able to move trillions of miles quickly. | Green Lantern Vol 2 #1 August 1960 | Calculation Link
  • Green Lantern Vol 2 #13 June 1962
  • Justice League of America Vol 1 #30 September 1964
    • Hal blocks Ultraman's heatvision. Not sure if 2-C at the time. The highest Superman feat at this time was 3-B
    • A drained Hal punches and knocks out Power Ring.
    • 5-B | A device blowing up Earth one and two would have killed them as well.
  • 4-B | Withstands a supernova | Justice League of America Vol 1 #42 February 1966
  • Hal Jordan can time travel | Green Lantern Vol 2 #51 March 1967
  • MFTL+ | Using 4 probes, Hal searches the universe in a heartbeat | Green Lantern Vol 2 #63 September 1968
  • Hal time travels again | Green Lantern Vol 2 #66 January 1969
  • Time Manipulation | Froze every being within 1000 miles of a shattered planet, weakening himself. | Green Lantern Vol 2 #72 October 1969
  • Kal-El easily stomps Hal without Kryptonite. | Action Comics Vol 1 #437 July 1974
  • At least Low 2-C | The Time Trapper sends the energy from an unknown amount of power rings to the time-dimension to destroy all but one possible future | Superman Vol 1 #295 January 1976
  • 4-B | Hal flew through a supernova | Green Lantern Vol 2 #91 November 1976
  • 3-B to 3-A | Withstood the Universe's magnetic force | Green Lantern Vol 2 #135 December 1980 | Limit
    • Comparable to gravity which is scaled to the mass in the universe, thus no timeline is affected
  • 2-C | An alien who copied Hal's body, memories, and stole his ring hurts and may kill Superma | DC Comics Presents Vol 1 #26 October 1980
  • A Time Transmitter Beam brings Hal into the future and causes memory alterations | Green Lantern Vol 2 #136 January 1981
  • Hal Jordan travels to the past | Green Lantern Vol 2 #137 February 1981
  • Unknow, possibly 2-C | According to Superman, the power of Hal's ring defies all quantification. | Justice League of America Vol 1 #189 April 1981
  • At least 4-B, possibly higher | When a massive Black Hole that grows hourly will soon destroy an entire Sector (1/3600 of the universe…), the Green Lantern of that sector dives in and seals the massive Black Hole. The effort leaves him bloodied and bruised, even near death, but he does it regardless. | Green Lantern Vol 2 #151 April 1982
  • 2-C with prep time | Hal designed a prison that was capable of holding Ultra-Man and the Crime Syndicate. Power Girl and Alan Scott prove incapable of shattering the construct. It takes the combined power of Dr. Fate and Starman to do the job. | Justice League of America Vol 1 #207 October 1982
  • Hal teleports various members of the JLA various places, despite not actually being near a good number of them. | Justice League of America Vol 1 #212 March 1983
  • A rookie GL seals up a bridge to the Anti-Matter universe bursting forth with Anti-Matter. | Green Lantern Vol 2 #164 May 1983
  • 4-C | Hal uses his ring to rekindle a dying Star-Sun, enabling the planets of the system to flourish. | Green Lantern Vol 2 #23 September 1963
  • 4-B | A Green Lantern zips up an artificial black hole | Green Lantern Vol 2 #169 October 1983
  • 2-C | Hal Jordan says that he stopped Superman cold once | Justice League of America Vol 1 #224 March 1984
  • Tales of the Green Lantern Corps Annual Vol 1 #1 October 1985
    • 5-A | Arisia contains a white dwarf star fragment that is moving at extreme speeds and destroying everything in it's path.
    • At least 4-C | Arisia plunges into a star 'with no more effort than setting out into a summer shower'. Tomar and Arisia are also tracking an energy trail during this time.
  • Guy Gardner warps time and space to bring the Shark back to life. | Green Lantern Vol 2 #196 January 1986
  • Time Travel | Unknown
  • De-evolution | Unknown
  • Hal beams the flash and reverse flash to 1913 | Unknown
  • The ring can create chronal energy | Unknown
  • Hal catches a speeding Flash when Superman and Hawkman both prove incapable. | http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/...2/4868c886.jpg
Tier Tally
Tier 2: 4, possibly 6 (Almost all is comparison to a Superman.)

Tier 3: 1, possibly 2

Tier 4: 6

Tier 5: 2

Suggested Stats
AP/Durability/Lifting/Striking: 2-C

Speed: MFTL+

Range: Universal

Weakness: Yellow

Other stats and abilities are similar to Post-Crisis era.
 
Oh sorry this is the thread I'm meant to comment on.

Everything here looks in order, personally I'd make his tier Just 2-C myself
 
Just go 2-C for this guy. He scales close enough to Superman for that to be an accurate point of comparison
 
2-C is probably fine, yes.
 
Gonna be honest, an issue I read recently made question whether it's proper to scale all of the League's heavy hitters to Superman's full power.

However, that was only a single issue and I don't have anything beyond that to contradict it, so right now I don't mind scaling Pre-Crisis Hal to Superman either. Especially since the destroying-timelines-feat was from the GLC and a fraction of 2-C is still 2-C.
 
Superman is most often depicted as being the heaviest hitter of the League, vast amounts of strength is basically his contribution to the group alongside Batman's Strategery, Wonder Woman's H2H skill, Flash's overwhelming speed, Lantern's constructs, or Manhunters Psyonics. Its not too much of a gap but it is a significant difference.
 
Didn't superman say Martian Manhunter is stronger than he is in terms of actual strength, and that his issue is more just a common weakness?
 
Wait, this also happens in Pre-Crisis? Damn.

Also, does GL have any notable powers in his Pre-Crisis self?
 
I think him being a bit stronger was just a general thing. I know of the specific scan for Post-Crisis but felt like it was also a thing pre.
 
Wokistan said:
I think him being a bit stronger was just a general thing. I know of the specific scan for Post-Crisis but felt like it was also a thing pre.
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Then you're talking about this, still Superman didn't admit that MM was physically stronger than him, only that in general he is one of the most powerful begins he personally know, probably due of his broken telepathy and his other abilities.

Also, considering that Superman had too be stated many times over to be the most powerful hero on Earth, i think it would make more sense of MM to be comparable rather than stronger.
 
I'm having trouble loading the scan for some reason. If it's from when MMH was guarding the artifact Mongul sent Superman to get, just keep in mind that Superman utterly stomped MMH in that instance as soon as he used his full power.
 
That one is not pre crisis
 
Superman and Martian Manhunter are about equal, even making Superman bleed. | World's Finest Vol 1 #212 June 1972

Superman beats Martian Manhunter. | DC Comics Presents Vol 1 #27 November 1980
 
Superman states Martian Manhunter is the strongest on Earth. | JLA Vol 1 #86 November 2003
 
Probably, tho I'd imagine Superman's fear of Manhunter has more to do with his broken hax abilities more than anything
 
Doomsday stomps Martian Manhunter. | Superman: The Doomsday Wars #1-3 November 1998
 
Doomsday Rex with Kryptonian DNA beats MMH. | Superman Vol 2 #175 December 2001
 
Is there a feat that scales Superman's speed to him for that tier?

Immeasurable speed is usually associated with Time Travel by speed.
 
I mean, if he can fight evenly with Superman, then I think it's safe to scale his speed to him. Besides, it's not like all who scale to Superman have time-travel by speed feats.
 
I think that MFTL+ speed seems safer. That was Superman's regular displayed speed during races with the Flash and similar.
 
Superman should preferably have a "Massively FTL+, Immeasurable via time travel" speed level in the first place.
 
I think superman's speed is only immeasurable after a little acceleration. Not really applicable to fight speed which is more often than not measured by his starting speed. Fortunately said starting speed is massively FTL+ but that is most likely what other characters would scale off of
 
Only exception I can think of is The Flash, depending on if you decide to make a Pre Crisis key for him, and even he's only capable of such speed after a little acceleration as well.

Overall MFTL+ is the best option for everyone
 
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