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Depends if there is a significant difference in Tier to Post-Crisis.
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Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) Pre-Crisis Key Creation
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Do we have calcs for the Pre-Crisis speed feats?
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See OP for Hal Jordan speed calc.
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Aye, we finally have exact calcs to justify the PC characters MFTL+ speed.
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We have some speed feats for Pre-Crisis Superman.
See https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Firestorm808/Superman_Feats_Timeline_Project
I will be doing the math calculations in a separate blog page.
See https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Firestorm808/Superman_Feats_Timeline_Project
I will be doing the math calculations in a separate blog page.
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From what I recall, Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman was much weaker than Pre-Crisis Superman, and as such would have to be gauged by her own feats. It was first Post-Crisis that she turned almost comparable.
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I will make a feat timeline for Wonder Woman.
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Firestorm808/Wonder_Woman_Feats_Timeline_Project
- Justice League of America Vol 1 #143 June 1977
- Her bracelets block Superman's blows
- Trades blows with Superman.
- All-New Collectors' Edition Vol 1 #C-54 January 1978
- WW fight with Superman not holding back for fifteen minutes.
- DC Comics Presents Vol 1 #9 May 1979
- Both are unable to stop the Ice People on their own.
- Wonder Woman's gauntlets can take and deflect Kal-El's heat-vision, still feeling the burn.
- The Ice Giant whacks Superman away with no injury and sprains Wonder Woman's shoulder
- Superman can shatter the Ice Giant.
- Further north, Superman and Wonder Woman can only crack the ice.
- Wonder Woman can react to Superman's invisible vision-beams.
- Wonder Woman is not as fast as Kal-El, but can still make after-images.
- Superman pulls WW and goes faster than the speed of thought.
- SM and WW punch the two Ice Giants together and shatter them enough to prevent re-assembly.
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Couldn't that be Plot-Induced Stupidity outliers though? I do not think that she had feats of her own anywhere near Superman's level.
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The list is still a work in progress, so we will see how it compares overall.
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Pre-Crisis Hercules is supposedly in Rebirth, so we could work with that.
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I figured that. I'm still trying to find Pre-Crisis Hercules's feats.
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Isn't this more of a hax feat than AP?Firestorm808 said:
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I'll fix that later.
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Bump?
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I'll be making the edit later.
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Can I have someone unlock the page to make the revision?
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I'll also need someone to rename him to just Pre-Flashpoint Hal Jordan.
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Sure, we can just have a New 52 and Rebith Key eventually. New 52 Green Lantern continuity is a bit weird. An interview confirms that some events repeat in the New 52 Timeline such as the Blackest Night and Brightest Day. They really stopped caring about a solid continuity.
Harras, Berganza: DCnU Will Keep Much of DC History Intact
Harras: We're taking this September event very seriously. We looked at what was important to our characters, what we thought were pivotal moments in their lives and could actually make more drama going forward. What really went on was a very comprehensive look at their histories, and Eddie and his team compiled a timeline for our history going forward, and everything that we thought was integral and important was part of that.
Berganza: It was all about the character. It wasn't so much, "what did this event do?" but "what did it do to the individuals?" If we got more story out of it, then definitely, that's what we were definitely going for. For instance, with Killing Joke, that event in the Bat-family is really crucial to what we're doing.
Nrama: How should fans regard favorite or even unfavorite past stories? Are they just going to find out along the way if they "counted" or not?
Berganza: You're going to have to read and see what's coming up.
Nrama: You both know DC has long-time fans where continuity and canon are a very important part of their reading experience. Can you talk about the regard for "continuity" within the editorial ranks of DC?
Berganza: We respect continuity, but I think even the fans will admit that once you get too mired in continuity, you start getting away from what's essential, which is character. If you look at what Geoff Johns has done with each time he relaunches a book, you see that it becomes very focused on character, and you don't get into questions about whether the Green Lantern fought this menace or this other menace, or where is Evil Star or the Starlings. You get more into the core of the character. And I think people have reacted very well to that. I think that's a fine model, where it doesn't get mired in continuity.
Harras, Berganza: DCnU Will Keep Much of DC History Intact
Harras: We're taking this September event very seriously. We looked at what was important to our characters, what we thought were pivotal moments in their lives and could actually make more drama going forward. What really went on was a very comprehensive look at their histories, and Eddie and his team compiled a timeline for our history going forward, and everything that we thought was integral and important was part of that.
Berganza: It was all about the character. It wasn't so much, "what did this event do?" but "what did it do to the individuals?" If we got more story out of it, then definitely, that's what we were definitely going for. For instance, with Killing Joke, that event in the Bat-family is really crucial to what we're doing.
Nrama: How should fans regard favorite or even unfavorite past stories? Are they just going to find out along the way if they "counted" or not?
Berganza: You're going to have to read and see what's coming up.
Nrama: You both know DC has long-time fans where continuity and canon are a very important part of their reading experience. Can you talk about the regard for "continuity" within the editorial ranks of DC?
Berganza: We respect continuity, but I think even the fans will admit that once you get too mired in continuity, you start getting away from what's essential, which is character. If you look at what Geoff Johns has done with each time he relaunches a book, you see that it becomes very focused on character, and you don't get into questions about whether the Green Lantern fought this menace or this other menace, or where is Evil Star or the Starlings. You get more into the core of the character. And I think people have reacted very well to that. I think that's a fine model, where it doesn't get mired in continuity.
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I'm done. Tell me if it's good to go.
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Can you unlock it again? Forgot to edit the notes at the bottom.
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It should be good now.
I'll update the rest of the Post-Crisis Lanterns later.
To my knowledge, White Lantern Kyle Rayner is Post-Flashpoint
I'll update the rest of the Post-Crisis Lanterns later.
To my knowledge, White Lantern Kyle Rayner is Post-Flashpoint
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Okay.
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