Great villain, wasted potential (Mephiles vs Gorr)

[Coolboy6]

Mephiles is 32 quettatons, Gorr is 136 quettatons, speed is equalized
It's futile. The world will betray you. Why fight at all? Why risk your life for those who will persecute you later?:

It doesn't feel like a curse, it feels like a promise. So this is my vow. All gods will die.:

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Mephiles is 32 quettatons, Gorr is 136 quettatons, speed is equalized
It's futile. The world will betray you. Why fight at all? Why risk your life for those who will persecute you later?:

It doesn't feel like a curse, it feels like a promise. So this is my vow. All gods will die.:

Gorr can’t negate low godly regen and it seems the other guy has too much hax

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Besides this guy likes the dark and guess what gorr has darkness attacks.

 

[Coolboy6]

Gorr can’t negate low godly regen and it seems the other guy has too much hax

It says he can negate type 3 immortality so that means he can kill those that can’t die because of regeneration. Also Mephiles’ hax seems passable to me tbh

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

It says he can negate type 3 immortality so that means he can kill those that can’t die because of regeneration. Also Mephiles’ hax seems passable to me tbh

Yeah but we have to scale regeneration negation/type 3 immortal negation based on the highest regeneration it has negated

so far it’s only affected low-mid. (Plus it doesn’t help that he only killed like one god on-screens and another off-screen)

it would be a no limits fallacy to assume that immortality negation type 3 can negate all levels of regeneration unless shown it can.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I say low mid because it says Zeus fears it and he has low-mid regen. I don’t remember any other gods he killed and if they did have profiles here I would have already found them.

 

[Coolboy6]

it would be a no limits fallacy to assume that immortality negation type 3 can negate all levels of regeneration unless shown it can.

So you’re saying I’m a wanker? Bruh you’re right

 

[RoTt35]

The Necroswrod only has High-Mid Regeneration Negation

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

So you’re saying I’m a wanker? Bruh you’re right

Easiest way to explain this.

Character has a weapon that can negate regen, uses it on someone who has mid regen. Works. Higher regens are never seen, so the most we say is mid regen negation.

If it says it can negate the regens of all the characters from a verse and that verse includes high godly then we can assume it can negate high godly. But then we would have to give a possibly rating since it’s not shown to be used attack high Godly character yet

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

The Necroswrod only has High-Mid Regeneration Negation

Thank you for correcting me not that it changes anything as the Sonic character has low godly regen.

 

[Coolboy6]

Bump

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

It’s a stomp, coolboy.

gorr cannot negate mephiles regeneration, and mephiles has the hax needed to kill gorr, not to mention his regen will protect him from whatever gorr throws at him.

plus he doesn’t have any light based attacks against mephiles nor would he know that light is his weakness

 

[ShakeResounding]

Seems like a mismatch when you factor in Mephiles' Low-Godly + his tendency to slink in shadows himself, an ability Gorr uses to his benefit. If he's facing somebody that can do the same which he also can't kill, yeah, doesn't seem quite fair.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Seems like a mismatch when you factor in Mephiles' Low-Godly + his tendency to slink in shadows himself, an ability Gorr uses to his benefit. If he's facing somebody that can do the same which he also can't kill, yeah, doesn't seem quite fair.

Exactly he could use the shadows against gorr. Gorr uses shadow attacks but guess what mephiles likes, shadows.

 

[Coolboy6]

It’s a stomp, coolboy.

gorr cannot negate mephiles regeneration, and mephiles has the hax needed to kill gorr, not to mention his regen will protect him from whatever gorr throws at him.

plus he doesn’t have any light based attacks against mephiles nor would he know that light is his weakness

No, the AP difference is too much and again, his hax isn’t even that overpowered when you compare it to other haxes existing. And at this point I’m sick of hearing it and having people think I’m dumb WHICH IM OBVIOUSLY NOT!

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

No, the AP difference is too much and again, his hax isn’t even that overpowered when you compare it to other haxes existing. And at this point I’m sick of hearing it and having people think I’m dumb WHICH IM OBVIOUSLY NOT!

BFR gg

 

[Coolboy6]

BFR gg

Gorr teleports (idiot)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Gorr teleports (idiot)

Time travel gg.

 

[Coolboy6]

Time travel gg.

You’d have to kill Gorr first, which would be pretty difficult considering the gap

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Gorr teleports (idiot)

Pretty sure you need time travel to come back from timeline BFR

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

You’d have to kill Gorr first, which would be pretty difficult considering the gap

Why not kill him when he was a baby?

 

[Coolboy6]

Why not kill him when he was a baby?

Changing the past doesn’t affect the future (at least in the MCU)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Changing the past doesn’t affect the future (at least in the MCU)

but that sounds like an mcu exclusive thing.

 

[Coolboy6]

Pretty sure you need time travel to come back from timeline BFR

…didn’t even know it was timeline BFR

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

stomp

 

[Coolboy6]

but that sounds like an mcu exclusive thing.

Well, the fight takes place in Central Park as per SBA which isn’t a location in the sonic universe as far as I’m concerned so the fight probably does take place within the Marvel Cinematic Universe

 

[Coolboy6]

stomp

…just stop it, you’re getting on my nerves real quick by saying that damn word over and over again

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Well, the fight takes place in Central Park as per SBA which isn’t a location in the sonic universe as far as I’m concerned so the fight probably does take place within the Marvel Cinematic Universe

Central Park is a real world location though?

also reminds me of asking people whether using smash bros locations would cause them to be subjected to smash bros laws/rules and stuff. Turns out that’s game mechanics. Aka getting sent flying after taking enough damage or out of bounds equals death.

 

[Coolboy6]

Central Park is a real world location though?

also reminds me of asking people whether using smash bros locations would cause them to be subjected to smash bros laws/rules and stuff. Turns out that’s game mechanics. Aka getting sent flying after taking enough damage or out of bounds equals death.

The only known locations in the sonic universe are based off real world locations and not the actual locations themselves (Spagonia, Apotos, Empire City, etc)

 

[ShakeResounding]

The AP difference is less than 4.25 times, especially since Mephiles one-shot Sonic who's superior to 32 Quettatons by an unknown but decent degree, so there's nothing stopping Mephiles from regenerating from any attack Gorr throws at him.

Combine that with Mephiles' duplication, and it's only a matter of time before Gorr sustains damage from an attack that he won't be able to regenerate from (horizontal bisection, a piercing blow to the head, etc.)

 

[ijl007]

@Coolboy6 I know nothing about Mephiles but if time travel is one of his abilities and he is able to use it to alter the past than I'm pretty sure saying he can't because the other verse doesn't have that ability is against Verse Equalization. Since it would be taking away an ability they inherently possess.