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Great Evil beast is going to return in Batman series
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Well, it does sound similar to a dark mirror of Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, but let's wait and see.
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I think Monitor-Mind would be beyond such duality and Yin-Yang style balance, as its the metaphorical page all comics are written on. But it's certainly possible. If a Dark Monitor-Mind that's equal to the light one exists, would that one be High 1-A as well?
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https://twitter.com/geoffjohns/status/888281802011361280
Johns says event will include everything from way back to action comics 1 to current so plausible. Have to wait and see.
Johns says event will include everything from way back to action comics 1 to current so plausible. Have to wait and see.
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Few thoughts on this:
Definitely talking about The Presence and The Great Darkness here, and also the Void. Very cool to see these concepts in a main comic.
This isn't the first time that The Darkness has returned in recent comics. In DC New 52 there's a realm called "The Shadowlands", which is where God sealed The Darkness.
Definitely talking about The Presence and The Great Darkness here, and also the Void. Very cool to see these concepts in a main comic.
This isn't the first time that The Darkness has returned in recent comics. In DC New 52 there's a realm called "The Shadowlands", which is where God sealed The Darkness.
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However, depending on how this progresses, we might have to indeed consider Lucifer Vol.2 as being Canon to Vertigo but not Canon to DC.
If The Presence shows up.
If The Presence shows up.
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/tUk5RGhgbT...VrLNgRWJTPGdY8Zcqu_I24Pz6rvfqAVFgjUseWL=s1600
It's been shown several times.
The voice an aspect of god casted the darkness in to shadow lands
https://foxhugh.files.wordpress.com...rd-swamp-thing-v2-167-page-18.jpg?w=500&h=775
It's been shown several times.
The voice an aspect of god casted the darkness in to shadow lands
https://foxhugh.files.wordpress.com...rd-swamp-thing-v2-167-page-18.jpg?w=500&h=775
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http://i.imgur.com/c9LLRYI.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-faB_dy7IZ...dIW6FIynny8acYrLu3xxDgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO023.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NVS1DO4XL...OOtFPkELVULVWcWQXSmBzwCHMYCw/s1600/RCO027.jpg
So Eternal returns is basically the great darkness .
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-faB_dy7IZ...dIW6FIynny8acYrLu3xxDgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO023.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NVS1DO4XL...OOtFPkELVULVWcWQXSmBzwCHMYCw/s1600/RCO027.jpg
So Eternal returns is basically the great darkness .
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Not really, it's just a typical cycle of creation / destruction thing. Marvel has that too.
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So the GEB is possibly stronger than the presence?
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http://i.imgur.com/Uj9741t.png
The Black evil being which appeared in lucifer 2016 series is not the Presence .
The Black evil being which appeared in lucifer 2016 series is not the Presence .
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" He is not god " which refers to the entity not being the Presence . The Presence was never omnipotent
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1) Watered down version of The Presence who needs people to heal him
2) Lucifer wielding a special weapon that can cut through anything
3) Further nerfing The Presence before attacking
I mean.
2) Lucifer wielding a special weapon that can cut through anything
3) Further nerfing The Presence before attacking
I mean.
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Ok . According to bryan hitch and Geoff jhons DC is going to face a biggest threat than COIE Antimonitor in in Doomsday clock .
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Mr.Mxy mentioned that something far more dangerous than himself was coming.Antvasima said:
I also think Manhattan killed Metron.
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You are likely correct. Perhaps he is as powerful as Captain Adam?
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Possible. No evidence so far.
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I will read the Doctor Manhattan comics like I did with the other Watchmen prequels, and I'll probably re-read the OG Watchmen again and gather all Manhattan feats. I already did that with the Ozymandias comics, and there's a statement that Manhattan exists in all universes simultaneously and past, present and future have no meaning to him.
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/875691
Here's the thread.
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/875691
Here's the thread.
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Dr Manhattan referred to a being more powerful then himself so I don't who that might be .
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In flash comics or someother . I will post the scan once I find it
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The Dark Multiverse dwarfs the DC creation by an infinitude .
http://imgur.com/Fs7wclB
http://imgur.com/Fs7wclB
DC creation is a tiny spec floating inside it .
http://imgur.com/Fs7wclB
http://imgur.com/Fs7wclB
DC creation is a tiny spec floating inside it .
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No proof it's the entire multiverse of just the infinite universes.
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It's likely another High 1-B structure, then, since they literally showed the map (God, I love how Meta DC can be).
Since it's another multiverse.
Since it's another multiverse.
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http://insidepulse.com/2015/07/26/d...-you-spoilers-dan-didio-grant-morrison-speak/
The main local Multiverse might be 52 in number but they are other endless Multiverses with infinite universes in the orrey
Grant Morrison is now referring to the post-Multiversity and post-Convergence DC DC Comics multiverse as the DC Multi-Multiverse:
…"[DC Co-Publisher Dan DiDio] just said, you've got to do something with this. You can't just say there's another Multiverse and then do nothing with it," Morrison said, then explained that he told Dan DiDio that actually, there are an endless number of Multiverses in the DCU. "It's not just another Multiverse — it's as many as we need. You know? There's, like, little champagne bubbles in a glass."
[1]Grant Morrison is calling the new DC approach to continuity the "DC Multi-Multiverse," and said the concept has opened the door for him to create "weird" and "strange" versions of DC characters in his two upcoming series, Multiversity Too and Batman: Black & White…
Dan DiDio seems to indicates that all of the new DC Comics mini-series and new ongoing series rolling out over the coming months take place on what Grant Morrison calls Earth 0 and what Dan DiDio calls Prime Earth:
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…I think the one misconception that came out of Convergence that we didn't really get too deep into is this idea that we're going to have all these books set in various numbered worlds. That was never going to be the case. Really, what we wanted to use was all those various worlds, to add to our storytelling, have places to go to in different types of adventures — to visit rather than just to basically set up where every book has its own world and own direction. I don't think that would make the strongest line, diversifying that fast, because it feels like all those things are competing with each other to get attention.
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What we want to do is create the sensibilities we had leading into the Crisis on Infinite Earths — the multiple worlds and opportunities that could be weaved into one big story, or tapped into to help support and move ideas forward…
[4]…when you look at books like Titans Hunt and Lois and Clark, these are building blocks that are starting to integrate aspects of the pre-Flashpoint continuity into the current continuity moving forward, that we established since the launch of the New 52…
Dan DiDio further indicates that there are two multiverses: one finite one (the 52 Earths one) and a parallel infinite one (although Grant Morrison seems to alluded to a lot more multiverses, but infinite is still infinite). At the same time, DiDio also tries to explain DC You's continuity using… circles.
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…I describe it (continuity) in three concentric circles. At the center, you have the core continuity that drives the story, drives the characters, that really defines what the universe stands for — basically, the films and TV shows strive for it too, that connective world.
Then you move out from there and you have the stories that are associated with that core continuity but are able to move into directions where they stand alone, but they still feel connected to the core universe, because they share a lot of the basic conceits of the shared universe.
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And then you move out to the furthest circle, and that's where you find a lot of the more fringe ideas, the more risk-taking, and different types of approaches — being able to try different things with different characters, with different artists, with different voices, different tones. And although they share the names of characters that you're familiar with, they really take on a life and a direction of their own, and we let them move in that direction so that they can breathe and take their own form.
[7] So with Multiversity, Grant announced that there was a second infinite Multiverse out there, and now we're creating brand new worlds to populate that with the same hope — that they have the same weight and gravitas that ultimately make them a part of our existing lore and continuity…
The main local Multiverse might be 52 in number but they are other endless Multiverses with infinite universes in the orrey
Grant Morrison is now referring to the post-Multiversity and post-Convergence DC DC Comics multiverse as the DC Multi-Multiverse:
…"[DC Co-Publisher Dan DiDio] just said, you've got to do something with this. You can't just say there's another Multiverse and then do nothing with it," Morrison said, then explained that he told Dan DiDio that actually, there are an endless number of Multiverses in the DCU. "It's not just another Multiverse — it's as many as we need. You know? There's, like, little champagne bubbles in a glass."
[1]Grant Morrison is calling the new DC approach to continuity the "DC Multi-Multiverse," and said the concept has opened the door for him to create "weird" and "strange" versions of DC characters in his two upcoming series, Multiversity Too and Batman: Black & White…
Dan DiDio seems to indicates that all of the new DC Comics mini-series and new ongoing series rolling out over the coming months take place on what Grant Morrison calls Earth 0 and what Dan DiDio calls Prime Earth:
[2]
…I think the one misconception that came out of Convergence that we didn't really get too deep into is this idea that we're going to have all these books set in various numbered worlds. That was never going to be the case. Really, what we wanted to use was all those various worlds, to add to our storytelling, have places to go to in different types of adventures — to visit rather than just to basically set up where every book has its own world and own direction. I don't think that would make the strongest line, diversifying that fast, because it feels like all those things are competing with each other to get attention.
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What we want to do is create the sensibilities we had leading into the Crisis on Infinite Earths — the multiple worlds and opportunities that could be weaved into one big story, or tapped into to help support and move ideas forward…
[4]…when you look at books like Titans Hunt and Lois and Clark, these are building blocks that are starting to integrate aspects of the pre-Flashpoint continuity into the current continuity moving forward, that we established since the launch of the New 52…
Dan DiDio further indicates that there are two multiverses: one finite one (the 52 Earths one) and a parallel infinite one (although Grant Morrison seems to alluded to a lot more multiverses, but infinite is still infinite). At the same time, DiDio also tries to explain DC You's continuity using… circles.
[5]
…I describe it (continuity) in three concentric circles. At the center, you have the core continuity that drives the story, drives the characters, that really defines what the universe stands for — basically, the films and TV shows strive for it too, that connective world.
Then you move out from there and you have the stories that are associated with that core continuity but are able to move into directions where they stand alone, but they still feel connected to the core universe, because they share a lot of the basic conceits of the shared universe.
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And then you move out to the furthest circle, and that's where you find a lot of the more fringe ideas, the more risk-taking, and different types of approaches — being able to try different things with different characters, with different artists, with different voices, different tones. And although they share the names of characters that you're familiar with, they really take on a life and a direction of their own, and we let them move in that direction so that they can breathe and take their own form.
[7] So with Multiversity, Grant announced that there was a second infinite Multiverse out there, and now we're creating brand new worlds to populate that with the same hope — that they have the same weight and gravitas that ultimately make them a part of our existing lore and continuity…
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