(GRACE) Sans vs Jevil

[StrymULTRA]

The Deltarune upgrades did happen, so why not the idea of putting Sans against every DR Secret Boss in a gauntlet?

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So we have these short, stronk mfers who dominated the fandom back in the late 2010s. They've never truly been pitted against each other here, so let's do it now.

• Jevil is over x212.08 stronger in AP and Durability​
• Jevil is around x277,082 above Sans' physical LS and x10.47 times above Sans' TK​
• Speed is equalized​
• Fight happens in Jevil's prison​
• Initial Distance is 5 meters​
• SBA for the rest​

Do you wanna have a Bad Time: 1 (Lilybitdun)

I CAN DO ANYTHING: 8 (Qurbonboev, Axorandom0, LittleGuy99, TheOrangeGuy09, SnakesCity, Ti58, Arkansalter2, FoxySonicMaster108)

I lose to both lol:

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Jevil FRB

 

[Qurbonboev]

Jevil oneshots, Sans can kill him in few hits. Both have teleportation.
Both have difficult danmaku, but Sans one is much weaker here due to Blue Mode being useless. Stamina is superhuman for both, but I would rate Jevil feats as more impressive.
Voting Jevil FRA

 

[StrymULTRA]

Jevil FRB

Immeasurable speed feat frfr (already got votes before the arguments began).

 

[koopa3144]

Sans (Fraud) after using his first attack on Jevil (The goat) and dealing 0 damage:

/j

 

[Axorandom0]

Jevil should have this. TK won’t really work, Jevil has homing attacks (though it’s just aim so they aren’t as good as it seems but still pretty good), and Jevil spams his teleportation much more than Sans making him hard to catch. The only advantage he doesn’t have is that Jevil isn’t forklift certified.

Voting Jevil FRA, Toby please give him more scenes

 

[LittleGuy99]

Jevil FRA

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Yeah Jevil's attacks are more versatile with Homing Attacks and his LS is better than Sans' TK, Jevil actually one-shots while Sans still needs some time (even if short), and Jevil has more advantage in dodging with his flight, afterimages. Sans has an edge in Teleportation range but that's kinda it, Jevil's magic has more range than Sans' magic otherwise. he should take it. They kinda have the same situation except Jevil just has more advantages. They are alike except Jevil is just stronger, tougher, chaoser, newer!
So, voting Jevil.

 

[SnakesCity]

One of my favorite jester characters FRA

 

[Ti58]

Jevil for FRA and FRB and FRIB

 

[Arkansalter2]

FRA

 

[StrymULTRA]

Grace in not even a hour it's insane.

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Dang this was fast asf

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Grace in not even a hour it's insane.

He can truly do anything, even beat Sans in less than an hour!

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Stomp

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Stomp

Average response to a favorite character losing an MU

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Average response to a favorite character losing an MU

I hate Sans bro

 

[Arkansalter2]

I hate Sans bro

Sans will win one day brotato chip.

 

[Lilybitdun]

The jevil FRA train is crazy

It doesn't matter if Sans has inferior AP due to his dura neg
Speed equalized means Sans has the higher reactions + he got instinctive reactions, should allow him to consistently dodge Jevil's attacks (why are yall acting like Sans fighting someone who can oneshot him is a death sentence when that's literally the situation in his own boss fight lol)

At worst Sans can incon via special attack

Sans fra

 

[koopa3144]

Speed equalized means Sans has the higher reactions + he got instinctive reactions, should allow him to consistently dodge Jevil's attacks (why are yall acting like Sans fighting someone who can oneshot him is a death sentence when that's literally the situation in his own boss fight lol)

Higher reactions and IA can only do so much vs someone with Jevil's level of Damaku and homing attacks. Especially since we've never seen Sans deal with Damaku before.

At worst Sans can incon via special attack

Sans prob won't get the chance to use it since it's his last move in-character, and he likely won't last long enough to use it.

 

[Lilybitdun]

Higher reactions and IA can only do so much vs someone with Jevil's level of Damaku and homing attacks. Especially since we've never seen Sans deal with Damaku before.

The up to 1.5km teleportation:

 

[LittleGuy99]

Why are we acting like Sans wouldn't get tired during Jevil's first 3 attacks

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

Jevil FRA

 

[Lilybitdun]

Why are we acting like Sans wouldn't get tired during Jevil's first 3 attacks

sans has Superhuman stamina

 

[Lilybitdun]

Sans' reaction speed is being super underestimated here, he can consistently dodge someone of equal speed to him his entire fight even when exhausted or literally asleep. Danmaku and Homing Attacks doesn't suddenly make it undodgable especially since Sans can teleport

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

The jevil FRA train is crazy

Sans takes a taste of his own medicine…

sans has Superhuman stamina

Aye aye that’s on me, I came up with the way to cook that.

Anyways, honestly I don’t think anyone argues here that Sans is hopeless (otherwise it’d be a stomp), he has his advantages but Jevil has more and better.

 

[Lilybitdun]

Sans takes a taste of his own medicine…


Aye aye that’s on me, I came up with the way to cook that.

Anyways, honestly I don’t think anyone argues here that Sans is hopeless (otherwise it’d be a stomp), he has his advantages but Jevil has more and better.

Yeah I agree, don't think it's a stomp in either direction

I personally feel like Jevil's AP adv doesn't mean much tho due to how Sans fights, plus I don't think the homing danmaku would be too much for Sans to deal with tbh

I do think Jevil's teleportation helps a lot in avoiding Sans' attacks and far superior LS means no blue soul shenanigans

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Would Jevil even dodge? You know, considering his whole "THIS BODY CAN'T BE KILLED!" stuff?

 

[LittleGuy99]

Would Jevil even dodge? You know, considering his whole "THIS BODY CAN'T BE KILLED!" stuff?

I would think so

 

[Lilybitdun]

Would Jevil even dodge? You know, considering his whole "THIS BODY CAN'T BE KILLED!" stuff?

lol, jevil goes to tank a gaster blaster and ******* dies to dura neg

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I would think so

He's kinda in a similar boat to Mad Dummy, they're both constantly on the move and ramp it up the longer the fight drags on, but always get hit and never attempt to dodge (Referring to Frisk's attack in regards to Maddie) cause they both see themselves as completely invincible.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Would Jevil even dodge? You know, considering his whole "THIS BODY CAN'T BE KILLED!" stuff?

I thought we assume they are dodging, unless we wanna use turns as literal and someone like Asgore literally standing there and getting hit without even trying to dodge, or unless they somehow have combat/attack speed blitz above reactions.

 

[Lilybitdun]

I thought we assume they are dodging, unless we wanna use turns as literal and someone like Asgore literally standing there and getting hit without even trying to dodge, or unless they somehow have combat/attack speed blitz above reactions.

That isn't what Eden is arguing tho

Eden is bringing up if it's in-character for Jevil to dodge

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

That isn't what Eden is arguing tho

Eden is bringing up if it's in-character for Jevil to dodge

I don't think he actually literally believes that he is cannot die from any attacks, just like he probably doesn't believe that he actually "CAN DO ANYTHING".

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I don't think he actually literally believes that he is cannot die from any attacks, just like he probably doesn't believe that he actually "CAN DO ANYTHING".

He does also laugh maniacally whenever you hit him, so he clearly doesn't see at least the Fun Gang's attacks as that much of a threat.

Also the "I CAN DO ANYTHING" line can be explained by him just referring to being able to use all Card Suits, or like from a moral framework Ig. "THIS BODY CANNOT BE KILLED" can't really? Unless he's like referring to the Fun Gang specifically, but even then, sans is also just a rando Lightner here, it's not like he's fighting the Knight lol

 

[StrymULTRA]

Also the "I CAN DO ANYTHING" line can be explained by him just referring to being able to use all Card Suits

Tbh I always interpreted it as simply him being able to do whatever he wants without being bound to societal rules, given his entire freedom thing and "the world building a prison around his cell".

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Jevil FRA

 

[StrymULTRA]

This was already added, so I'll ask this to get closed.