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(GRACE) Baldi VS Phil Eggtree: Riddle Basics

Okay, so in regards to Baldi's speed, while I wholly agree that Baldi's stop-and-go movement is in-character of Baldi, there is one game mode in Baldi's Basics Plus that has him start at his peak speed no matter what:
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Speedy Challenge

Speedy Challenge is one of the challenges available from the Challenge Mode in Baldi's Basics Plus. In this challenge, the only characters in the school are the player and Baldi. Both characters are much faster than in the other modes. The goal is to collect 25 notebooks and reach all four...
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As such, I do see speed as a potential win-con. In regards to combat style... Yeah... The thing about Phil's combat experience is he has none. He largely avoided direct combat, preferring to play things smart rather than Leeroy Jenkins his opponents. Even the most climactic points of the series, which are all found in Riddle School 5, Riddle Transfer 1, and Riddle Transfer 2, Phil Eggtree made use of puzzles to escape rather than try to do anything about his opponents. Aside from the questionable assignment of statistics, Phil is just a 10-year-old boy.

That isn't to say Baldi is skilled, far from it. His intelligence is mainly for general purposes rather than actual combat. The most you can say about Baldi is he forces the player to the cafeteria by walling off exits through whatever reality-warping nonsense he's doing, which gives him the capability to deal with opponents on-the-fly. Normally that isn't saying much, but I think it's saying a bit considering Phil avoids direct combat while Baldi basically hounds his opponents. He isn't throwing puzzles at Phil either aside from the Notebooks; he just railroads his opponents.

Now that isn't to say Phil is completely defenseless either. That whistle must exceed 120 dB over three meters if it had everyone in the class hitting the dirt! Baldi's hearing is sensitive to the point where he can hear "bad math," which... I checked and typing is apparently 50 dB. If Baldi can hear sounds as low as about 10 dB (based on an approximate distance of 30 meters away from reference point using Inverse Square Law) as if they were 60 dB, then I'm pretty sure whatever noise the whistle makes would be painful if not deadly to Baldi. Problem is how fast Phil can whip out the whistle depends on how fast the player decides to give it to him, which really messes with the situation here.

I feel that the best answer for this thread is it's an Inconclusive match, as the things in favor of both Baldi and Phil are likely to cancel each other out.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
I mean, Phil was literally running away from Area 5.1 agents at the start of Riddle Transfer 2, especially since he had nothing to defend himself with at the time. Plus, if I ever saw a man slapping his ruler menacingly on his hand as he starts chasing me, I would run away if I have nothing on me to defend myself or play a range game if the former isn't the case, and that would be what Phil would do.
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I vote for Phil winning the battle. Baldi can hear everything in his school and Phil has no reason to not use his whistle to win before Baldi could get close enough to do anything, so Phil could win no matter where he is in the school. Baldi would most likely start slow, so Phil wouldn't get speed blitzed. Baldi has been shown to move super fast from a standstill via glitching space, but it's out of character for him to do that at the beginning of a conflict, and I'm not even sure if he even knows this can happen.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
It's funny to see how Phil looks like a young Baldi with the similar bald head and green clothing.

Story: At some point in his dream, Phil finds himself enrolled in Here School. Knowing how boring it is to learn, combined with the fact that he heard the teacher happens to be very abusive, he decides to escape school once again. However, Baldi isn't going to have it in letting another student escape him alive.

Speed is unequalized, Dream Phil is used, and the battle takes place in Here School. Both of them start 20 meters apart from each other and have access to all of their equipment.

Who wins?

GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN:

Bread crumbs and beaver spit: 2 (Frieza force soldier 100, James Plays 4 Games)

The Earth gets frozen alongside them while they were fighting: 1 (Flashlight237)
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Phil can nullify Baldi's hearing and Temporarily stun him and has way better Durability, so I'm going him for now.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
It's funny to see how Phil looks like a young Baldi with the similar bald head and green clothing.

Story: At some point in his dream, Phil finds himself enrolled in Here School. Knowing how boring it is to learn, combined with the fact that he heard the teacher happens to be very abusive, he decides to escape school once again. However, Baldi isn't going to have it in letting another student escape him alive.

Speed is unequalized, Dream Phil is used, and the battle takes place in Here School. Both of them start 20 meters apart from each other and have access to all of their equipment.

Who wins?

GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN:

Bread crumbs and beaver spit: 2 (Frieza force soldier 100, James Plays 4 Games)

The Earth gets frozen alongside them while they were fighting: 1 (Flashlight237)
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Also, finally, we've got a Phil profile.
 
I'm trying to help by asking users from previous Baldi threads if they would like to contribute to this thread, but it seems most of them are busy, lack extensive knowledge, or simply aren't interested. I will continue to look though.
 
Baldi can blitz but is no one going to address his specific speed when he's first angered? OR that phil ìs a stone wall?

With SBA, does baldi start at his strongest (ie, fastest speed)? With the current conditions, baldi can only really ragdoll poor phil and potentially BFR him with his superior speed. And that's from a guy that briefly watched baldi gameplays and played all of Riddle School
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
Baldi can blitz but is no one going to address his specific speed when he's first angered? OR that phil ìs a stone wall?

With SBA, does baldi start at his strongest (ie, fastest speed)? With the current conditions, baldi can only really ragdoll poor phil and potentially BFR him with his superior speed. And that's from a guy that briefly watched baldi gameplays and played all of Riddle School
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If you never bothered to read this argument:
Psychomaster35 said:
A fighting style that is very simple at that, being to move a few meters at a time and taking a break for a second. If Phil were to see him running at him like that, it's likely for him to just blow his whistle out of self defense before he could reach him, which is something that doesn't necessarily require fighting experience. Also, Phil has been used to facing others smarter than him.
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Psychomaster35 said:
But like I said, Baldi in gameplay doesn't start off at his peak speed when he initially starts getting angry, only choosing to move a few meters and stopping for a second before slapping his ruler to move another few meters. Also, the Spatial Manipulation has only been done at his angriest state, so he won't start doing it unless he gets angrier somehow.
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