Goku vs Yang

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Son Goku (Commander Red Saga) vs Yang Xiao Long (Beacon)

(Goku scales to General Blue’s 3.72 Ton feat; Yang scales to 3.41 Tons via Nevermores and can double her AP with her Semblance)

Location: Spirit Stream Arena

Speed equalized

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[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Huh, Goku might actually have his hands full here.

 

[Spinoirr]

and can double her AP with her Semblance

Slight misconception, it doesnt just flat double her AP, it doubles her AP based on the amount of damage she takes beforehand

ie. If she gets hit once by an opponent of equal power, she gets double the power of that hit on top of her regular strength. If she gets hit twice, she gets double that, etc.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Hmm... This is the key of Kid Goku that still has his Tail Weakness, right? So if Yang manages to grab ahold of it, Goku will just immediately lose... Meh, let's ignore that for now.

Kid Goku has Nimbus and the Power Pole, but... He probably won't abuse those two in order to gain the upper hand on Yang, i.e, fly hundreds of meters away from Yang and just repeatedly attack her with his planetary range pole. Skill-wise, Goku has Yang beat in all regards due to him being... him, so he'll likely land more hits on Yang than she would be able to land hits on him. Speed is equal, and attack potency and durability have been stated - with Goku having a minor advantage at the start, but Yang will gain the lead as the match progresses.

Hmm... Have to go with Yang, at least for now unless somebody presents a good argument for Goku.

 

[sanicspood]

You haven’t even made an arguement for Yang other then “ya shell grab tail for some reason lol” like huh?

in what world does she assume that’s gokus weak spot?

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Honestly, I was just addressing that weak point of Goku since it is the only notable one that Kid Goku has. Not like Yang can use it since Goku out-skills here to a notable degree. However, there isn't a big difference in their attack potency but each and every one of Goku's hits will amp up Yang and make her stronger over the course of the battle, thus, that's my reason for voting for her.

 

[AdNiBN002]

This essentially comes down to if Yang's AP stacking will be enough to stop Goku from winning via skill.
Goku does actually have a very good chance here as he has access to Afterimage Creation.
Beacon-Arc Yang is notable poor fighting against illusions as she fought against Neopolitan and basically got no-diffed due to Neo having superior skill and illusion's.
Which are both conditions in Goku's favour here.

 

[StekFence]

hmm. While goku can’t power sense here to realize the enemy is getting stronger, his face is gonna feel it eventually. From there, an intelligent move would be to start flying or projecting after images. Due to his variety of ways to move around without range of being hit, skill advantage, and the range advantage, I think he should win.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Yeah Yang’s hand-to-hand skill isn’t exactly amazing

 

[AdNiBN002]

Voting Goku for the following reasons:

- His afterimage presents a win-condition that Yang is notably weak towards

- Beacon-Arc Yang was directly noted by her father to extremely predictable in her fighting, so a talent such as Goku should be able to notice the same weakness.

- Yang's semblance becomes a bit of a non-factor here. As Goku's superior skill and Afterimages means that it's unlikely that Yang actually manages to land a hit on Goku. Similarly to how the fight against Neo played out.

- Beacon-Arc Yang was extremely reliant on her Semblance and won literally all her Vol. 3 fights using it. So having an opponent that can fight around it basically removes her only win-condition.

 

[sanicspood]

If she’s literally not skilled and gets tripped by mf after images then goku destroys

voting goku

 

[Popted2]

Goku FRA

 

[Spinoirr]

hmm. While goku can’t power sense here to realize the enemy is getting stronger, his face is gonna feel it eventually. From there, an intelligent move would be to start flying or projecting after images. Due to his variety of ways to move around without range of being hit, skill advantage, and the range advantage, I think he should win.

Should also point out that Neo in that fight was absurdly stronger than Yang and Yang was exhausted and sleep deprived due to having just spent a full day clearing a city of Grimm with her team. Yang vs Neo is definitely not the best example of how Yang normally fights

yang vs mercury is a better example

 

[Spinoirr]

"From there, an intelligent move would be to start flying or projecting after images. Due to his variety of ways to move around without range of being hit, skill advantage, and the range advantage, I think he should win."

They both have the same range though, both of their energy projection attacks have hundreds of meters range

 

[AdNiBN002]

Should also point out that Neo in that fight was absurdly stronger than Yang and Yang was exhausted and sleep deprived due to having just spent a full day clearing a city of Grimm with her team. Yang vs Neo is definitely not the best example of how Yang normally fights

yang vs mercury is a better example

That's fair to point out, however it's hard to define just how much stronger Neo was in vol 3 as she still considered Raven to be completely out of her league.
Neo was also not close to trying her 100% against Yang and still beat her with ease.
Yang just overall performed poorly to a very noticeable degree. Even Ruby fought against the same nonchalant Neo and performed better than Yang did.
And looking past the semantics; the same factors still apply; there is an abundant skill-difference, and Goku still has afterimages that Yang is notably poor against.

Being fatigued is also fair to point out, but it also doesn't prove much as none of the other members of team RWBY seemed to perform any worse than normally thanks to it.

The Mercury fight also seems to favour Goku. As Mercury was deliberately throwing the fight and still almost beat Yang outright thanks to superior skill.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Goku can't fly in this case, and his energy projection at this time is bad. He can't spam energy attacks like his adult self can.

He also cannot fly via his own power, though he does have Nimbus. I don't really recall him using it in a standard fight to help attack someone from a distance. This will be a close range fight between them, and Goku is more skilled here I believe. Note: I'm not knowledgeable about Dragon Ball, but I'm assume he is for good reason.

However I'm voting Goku myself. If Yang doesn't finish Goku with her Semblance, she'll be left weak and tired.

Goku's superior skill, along with him having better reach up close with his power pole, and afterimages to confuse her. I think he wins more likely than not.

 

[Spinoirr]

"Yeah Yang’s hand-to-hand skill isn’t exactly amazing"
"Not like Yang can use it since Goku out-skills here to a notable degree."
"If she’s literally not skilled and gets tripped by mf after images then goku destroys "

Not sure where the idea that Yang is unskilled comes from, even in-verse she's among the most skilled fighters in the world and regularly analyzes her opponent's fighting styled to devise ways to counter them, she was trained in combat by one of the single most skilled pro huntsmen since childhood which made her skilled enough to make it into Beacon, one of the most exclusive combat academies in the world, and she has a track record that includes stomping a duo of world class assassins on three separate occasions (those twin girls and we know how skilled they are thanks to the light novels)

"there is an abundant skill-difference, and Goku still has afterimages that Yang is notably poor against."

Where is it ever noted that Yang spcifically does poorly against afterimages? Her partner Blake literally spams afterimages as her main fighting style and Yang has no issue keeping track of her

 

[AdNiBN002]

"Yeah Yang’s hand-to-hand skill isn’t exactly amazing"
"Not like Yang can use it since Goku out-skills here to a notable degree."
"If she’s literally not skilled and gets tripped by mf after images then goku destroys "

Not sure where the idea that Yang is unskilled comes from, even in-verse she's among the most skilled fighters in the world and regularly analyzes her opponent's fighting styled to devise ways to counter them, she was trained in combat by one of the single most skilled pro huntsmen since childhood which made her skilled enough to make it into Beacon, one of the most exclusive combat academies in the world, and she has a track record that includes stomping a duo of world class assassins on three separate occasions (those twin girls and we know how skilled they are thanks to the light novels)

It's not that Yang "isn't skilled" per say, but she's up against someone who is widely regarded as a prodigy and has mastered techniques that some require a life-time to achieve by literally viewing them once. Yang has never been implied to be a prodigy-level talent as the only RWBY characters that have gotten that status was Pyrrha (as she was implied to be superior to all the other students) and Ozpin.

"there is an abundant skill-difference, and Goku still has afterimages that Yang is notably poor against."

Where is it ever noted that Yang spcifically does poorly against afterimages? Her partner Blake literally spams afterimages as her main fighting style and Yang has no issue keeping track of her

She has shown on multiple occassions that she is susceptible to afterimages, both when fighting Neo and when Neo was masking her escape.
We've seen her take on someone using Afterimages and she literally didn't see through a single illusion and couldn't land a single hit.
So saying that she is susceptible to them is not a weird claim.

 

[sanicspood]

Vote already

 

[Spinoirr]

"It's not that Yang "isn't skilled" per say, but she's up against someone who is widely regarded as a prodigy and has mastered techniques that some require a life-time to achieve by literally viewing them once. Yang has never been implied to be a prodigy-level talent as the only RWBY characters that have gotten that status was Pyrrha (as she was implied to be superior to all the other students) and Ozpin. "

If thats the metric that we're going by then yes actually she has due to both having an aura and a fully manifested Semblance, which is noted to only be achievable by a handful of people in the entire world and a massive achievement of skill, with some people going their entire lives training without ever unlocking their semblance

"She has shown on multiple occassions that she is susceptible to afterimages, both when fighting Neo and when Neo was masking her escape.
We've seen her take on someone using Afterimages and she literally didn't see through a single illusion and couldn't land a single hit.
So saying that she is susceptible to them is not a weird claim."

Again, that was one fight where she was not at peak performance, and that wasnt afterimages that was wide-scale illusion creation. Goku doesnt have the ability to turn himself completely invisible or alter the appearance of the environment with illusions, thats what Yang was fighting against when she fought Neo. Goku's fairly basic afterimages are in no way comparable to Neo's broken af illusion semblance.

 

[AdNiBN002]

If thats the metric that we're going by then yes actually she has due to both having an aura and a fully manifested Semblance, which is noted to only be achievable by a handful of people in the entire world and a massive achievement of skill, with some people going their entire lives training without ever unlocking their semblance

That does not indicate that Yang is a prodigal talent seeing as even Jaune Arc (very much not a prodigy) was capable of fully manifesting his Semblance aswell.
Mercury Black also manifested his Semblance at an earlier age and Lie Ren literally unlocked it as a child.
None of them have been touted as prodigies regardless of this either.

Being a member of Beacon does mean that she possesses skill far over the average, but prodigy-level talents are essentially anomalies that Yang has never been implied to be. With the only ones implied to reach that status being Ozpin and Pyrrha.

It's also the problem again of Yang being directly stated to be a brash and predictable fighter by her own father. Yang has never been touted as some expert Martial-Artist, which is what she directly competes with regarding skill here.

Again, that was one fight where she was not at peak performance, and that wasnt afterimages that was wide-scale illusion creation. Goku doesnt have the ability to turn himself completely invisible or alter the appearance of the environment with illusions, thats what Yang was fighting against when she fought Neo. Goku's fairly basic afterimages are in no way comparable to Neo's broken af illusion semblance.

There was no indication that the fatigue nerfed her to a significant degree, at worst she was possibly more sluggish.

Goku's afterimage does actually work somewhat similarly to Neo's illusion in combat, even if the properties are different. The two have differences in scale and range but Yang wasn't capable of seeing through any illusion, at any scale.

If she can't see through Neo and her illusion then there is nothing indicating that she can see through Goku's afterimage.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Neo makes physical illusions and turn herself invisible.

Her illusions are physically there, and can even move around and interact with stuff.

Though Goku has used afterimage on those equal to him in speed correct? If so I still believe it'd be hard for Yang to deal with it.

 

[AdNiBN002]

Neo makes physical illusions and turn herself invisible.

Her illusions are physically there, and can even move around and interact with stuff.

Though Goku has used afterimage on those equal to him in speed correct? If so I still believe it'd be hard for Yang to deal with it.

He did it during the 21st Budokai correct

 

[Spinoirr]

"That does not indicate that Yang is a prodigal talent seeing as even Jaune Arc (very much not a prodigy) was capable of fully manifesting his Semblance aswell."

Yes, after spending two years constantly training under Pyrrha's wing even after her death as well as receiving additional training at Beacon and Haven and reaching a skill level comparable to the rest of the main cast.

"Mercury Black also manifested his Semblance at an earlier age and Lie Ren literally unlocked it as a child. None of them have been touted as prodigies regardless of this either."

Bruh Mercury is one of the most skilled characters in the entire and is stated by WoG to be able to effortlessly stomp Pyrrha in skill if he were fighting seriously.

"It's also the problem again of Yang being directly stated to be a brash and predictable fighter by her own father. Yang has never been touted as some expert Martial-Artist, which is what she directly competes with regarding skill here."

Except she displays expert martial arts capabilities in her fights, see the Yellow Trailer for example where she took on Melanie and Militia, two world-class martial artists and assassins, and beat them in CQC thanks to her own martial arts skill, supplemented by the manga having her constantly analyzing their fighting styles for openings to exploit. And yeah, her father the veteran huntsman who has spent decades fighting Grimm, has twice the amount of combat experience she does, and knows her personality was able to pick apart her fighting style to find flaws, thats not the same as a random opponent doing so, especially when she has beaten everyone who doesnt outright oneshot her in combat anyways.

"There was no indication that the fatigue nerfed her to a significant degree, at worst she was possibly more sluggish."

Yeah and also she was fighting a person who is strong enough to literally oneshot her if she felt like it

"Goku's afterimage does actually work somewhat similarly to Neo's illusion in combat, even if the properties are different. The two have differences in scale and range but Yang wasn't capable of seeing through any illusion, at any scale."

It definitely doesnt. Neo makes physical illusions capable of hurting opponents and blocking attacks, and last i checked Goku cant make illusory fissures in the ground, turn himself and others invisible, or alter the appearance of objects with his afterimages.

"If she can't see through Neo and her illusion then there is nothing indicating that she can see through Goku's afterimage."

She can see through Blake's afterimages just fine. She would be able to see through Goku's.

 

[AdNiBN002]

"That does not indicate that Yang is a prodigal talent seeing as even Jaune Arc (very much not a prodigy) was capable of fully manifesting his Semblance aswell."

Yes, after spending two years constantly training under Pyrrha's wing even after her death as well as receiving additional training at Beacon and Haven and reaching a skill level comparable to the rest of the main cast.

This does not disprove the original point of Yang not being a prodigal talent, none of these points do, as nobody here scales to anyone who has been touted as a prodigy. The only person who does is Mercury Black, which by itself does not help Yang's case as Beacon-Arc Yang does not scale to Pyrrha nor Black.

"There was no indication that the fatigue nerfed her to a significant degree, at worst she was possibly more sluggish."

Yeah and also she was fighting a person who is strong enough to literally oneshot her if she felt like it

Yet she did not, or by any means use strength remotely close to her max capacity. Neo beat Yang because of her better skill and illusions, not by AP-gap one-shotting.

"If she can't see through Neo and her illusion then there is nothing indicating that she can see through Goku's afterimage."

She can see through Blake's afterimages just fine. She would be able to see through Goku's.

You cannot say that Neo's illusions are incomparable then use Blake's illusions as proof that Yang will see through the Afterimage, that is double-standard.
Regardless of which is true, it does not help Yang's case against Goku's afterimage regardless.

If Blake's illusions cannot be compared:

Then Yang has nothing implying that she can see through Goku's afterimage, and would therefore be just as susceptible as usual and you are therefore conceding that Goku's afterimages would work on Yang.

If Blake's illusions can be compared:

Then Yang remains susceptible as she was against Neo's illusions, which she used to completely decimate Yang with no difficulty, which also means that you concede that Yang would be effected by Goku's afterimage.

Regardless of if they are comparable not, Yang is still canonically weak against illusions and would have the same weakness against Goku.

 

[Spinoirr]

"This does not disprove the original point of Yang not being a prodigal talent, none of these points do, as nobody here scales to anyone who has been touted as a prodigy. The only person who does is Mercury Black, which by itself does not help Yang's case as Beacon-Arc Yang does not scale to Pyrrha nor Black."

Except she is, getting into Beacon alone requires students to be prodigies in combat, even Ruby who is considered of average skill in the Beacon Arc was noted as being years ahead of her classmates at her former combat school Signal Academy (Enough so that she was able to skip two years to immediately get into Beacon) and was casually wielding what Ozpin (A guy who has been around for millennia and had both been and trained huntsmen for the majority of that timeframe) described as one of the most dangerous weapons ever designed, and Yang is on the exact same level as her and received the same training from Qrow.

"You cannot say that Neo's illusions are incomparable then use Blake's illusions as proof that Yang will see through the Afterimage, that is double-standard. Regardless of which is true, it does not help Yang's case against Goku's afterimage regardless."

Youre literally comparing basic afterimages to a person who can alter the appearance of city blocks with illusions.



Show where Goku has ever done anything like with with afterimages. They are not the same thing.

"Regardless of if they are comparable not, Yang is still canonically weak against illusions and would have the same weakness against Goku."

Goku doesnt have illusions so no, she would not be

 

[AdNiBN002]

"This does not disprove the original point of Yang not being a prodigal talent, none of these points do, as nobody here scales to anyone who has been touted as a prodigy. The only person who does is Mercury Black, which by itself does not help Yang's case as Beacon-Arc Yang does not scale to Pyrrha nor Black."

Except she is, getting into Beacon alone requires students to be prodigies in combat, even Ruby who is considered of average skill in the Beacon Arc was noted as being years ahead of her classmates at her former combat school Signal Academy (Enough so that she was able to skip two years to immediately get into Beacon) and was casually wielding what Ozpin (A guy who has been around for millennia and had both been and trained huntsmen for the majority of that timeframe) described as one of the most dangerous weapons ever designed, and Yang is on the exact same level as her and received the same training from Qrow.

This entire premise is under the notion that getting accepted into Beacon is automatically qualifies one as a prodigy. Again, we have seen characters canonically being referred to as prodigies within the RWBY-verse and none of that was because of them getting accepted into Beacon.
The only thing we know about Beacon is that their students are unquantifiably ahead of the norm. Saying that ALL students in Beacon are prodigies would directly invalidate Ozpin and Pyrrha's status as actual prodigies.

"You cannot say that Neo's illusions are incomparable then use Blake's illusions as proof that Yang will see through the Afterimage, that is double-standard. Regardless of which is true, it does not help Yang's case against Goku's afterimage regardless."

Youre literally comparing basic afterimages to a person who can alter the appearance of city blocks with illusions.

1. I also specifically mentioned within combat, as the in-combat and out-of-combat uses varies greatly. I said that they work similar in practice, not that their properties are the same. In combat her illusions are more akin to an advanced version of Blake's (which you directly referred to as an afterimage aswell) So i once again draw attention to this:

If Blake's illusions cannot be compared:

Then Yang has nothing implying that she can see through Goku's afterimage, and would therefore be just as susceptible as usual and you are therefore conceding that Goku's afterimages would work on Yang.

If Blake's illusions can be compared:

Then Yang remains susceptible as she was against Neo's illusions, which she used to completely decimate Yang with no difficulty, which also means that you concede that Yang would be effected by Goku's afterimage.

2. illusion creation is directly defined as "The ability to create false images" so saying that the technique that is literally called "afterimage" is completely incomparable is disingenuous at best. They both acomplish the same end-result of misleading and disorienting, which is what Yang canonically lost against as she spent half the fight against Neo wondering how she randomely got hit.

So again, regardless of how comparable the Afterimage is towards Neo, you cannot prove that Yang resists it, and you cannot prove that she is a fighting-prodigy as she was never stated as one, nor has she been implied to be one, nor does she scale towards one.

 

[Spinoirr]

"This entire premise is under the notion that getting accepted into Beacon is automatically qualifies one as a prodigy. Again, we have seen characters canonically being referred to as prodigies within the RWBY-verse and none of that was because of them getting accepted into Beacon. The only thing we know about Beacon is that their students are unquantifiably ahead of the norm. Saying that ALL students in Beacon are prodigies would directly invalidate Ozpin and Pyrrha's status as actual prodigies."

Its almost like every named character in the series is a highly skilled fighter but there are people who are more skilled than others. Theres a whole skill-scaling chain for RWBY with the baseline being a small handful of people in the world who are veritable combat masters.

"I also specifically mentioned within combat, as the in-combat and out-of-combat uses varies greatly. I said that they work similar in practice, not that their properties are the same. In combat her illusions are more akin to an advanced version of Blake's (which you directly referred to as an afterimage aswell) So i once again draw attention to this:"

No, they do not. Look at any of her fights in the show or the novels, she has made herself completely invisible, created clones, manipulated the environment, used illusions to conceal others, all in combat. Please show where Goku has done any of that.

"2. illusion creation is directly defined as "The ability to create false images" so saying that the technique that is literally called "afterimage" is completely incomparable is disingenuous at best. They both acomplish the same end-result of misleading and disorienting, which is what Yang canonically lost against as she spent half the fight against Neo wondering how she randomely got hit. So again, regardless of how comparable the Afterimage is towards Neo, you cannot prove that Yang resists it, and you cannot prove that she is a fighting-prodigy as she was never stated as one, nor has she been implied to be one, nor does she scale towards one."

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Afterimage Creation

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Theyre literally listed as two vastly different powers. If you want to make a CRT to try to give Goku illusion creation then go for it, but until then you cannot just claim that he has illusion creation based on afterimages.

So again, no, Goku does not have anything comparable to Neo's illusions. His afterimages are comparable to Blake's which Yang has no issue keeping track of. She does not need to be stated to be a fighting prodigy, her combat feats and background more than support her being one.

 

[AdNiBN002]

"This entire premise is under the notion that getting accepted into Beacon is automatically qualifies one as a prodigy. Again, we have seen characters canonically being referred to as prodigies within the RWBY-verse and none of that was because of them getting accepted into Beacon. The only thing we know about Beacon is that their students are unquantifiably ahead of the norm. Saying that ALL students in Beacon are prodigies would directly invalidate Ozpin and Pyrrha's status as actual prodigies."

Its almost like every named character in the series is a highly skilled fighter but there are people who are more skilled than others. Theres a whole skill-scaling chain for RWBY with the baseline being a small handful of people in the world who are veritable combat masters.

And yet the scaling-chain made a very clear distinction between those who were stated to be prodigies in comparison to literally everyone else.

Theyre literally listed as two vastly different powers. If you want to make a CRT to try to give Goku illusion creation then go for it, but until then you cannot just claim that he has illusion creation based on afterimages.

Then you are also conceding that Yang does not have feats applicable to showing anything dealing with Goku's afterimage. And the end-result remains the same.

 

[Spinoirr]

"And yet the scaling-chain made a very clear distinction between those who were stated to be prodigies in comparison to literally everyone else."

Everyone in the verse is a prodigy, they just have people who are god-tir prodigies among normal prodigies

"Then you are also conceding that Yang does not have feats applicable to showing anything dealing with Goku's afterimage. And the end-result remains the same."

What are you talking about? Yang would have no trouble whatsoever dealing with his afterimages as she can keep track of Blake and the afterimages she spams in combat. The End result is Goku's afterimages not doing anything to help him.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Have to ask, uh... Well, why is Goku's Afterimages important in this match? Is it to help him avoid getting hit or something?

 

[Spinoirr]

Have to ask, uh... Well, why is Goku's Afterimages important in this match? Is it to help him avoid getting hit or something?

His afterimage point doesn't really matter as afterimages aren't physical illusions that can change the shape and color of things and change other objects and people

 

[StekFence]

Have to ask, uh... Well, why is Goku's Afterimages important in this match? Is it to help him avoid getting hit or something?

Yeah. Anything that can help him avoid being struck like nimbus or after images will be useful here since the opponent can hit hard when goku attacks.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

I... uh... Is this whole argument happening cuz of Yang's fight with Neo on the train? To me, it seems like this relies on the fact that Neo handily beat Yang due to her own illusions and skill, and use that as a way to explain how Goku with his afterimages and master-level martial arts can beat Yang.

Yeah. Anything that can help him avoid being struck like nimbus or after images will be useful here since the opponent can hit hard when goku attacks.

This is honestly more important, IMO. Nimbus. Goku can achieve true flight, while Yang can't, I'm still voting for Yang, but I can see how Goku's fighting skills and equipment can give him a win over Yang.

 

[Spinoirr]

A rather large portion of AbNi's argument is that Yang would be tripped up by Goku's use of afterimages in combat because Neo was able to use vastly more broken illusions to outplay a sleep-deprived Yang in a fight. Not only are Goku's afterimages not in any way comparable to Neo's illusions, but Yang has excess experience dealing with afterimages as her combat partner Blake spams afterimages as a core part of her fighting style and Yang is able to keep track of Blake with no issue.

 

[speedster352]

Goku fra

 

[Asriel77]

goku fra

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Mmmmmmmmmm monkey fra

 

[Psychomaster35]

Goku FRA

 

[Soulgizmo]

Hmm... This is the key of Kid Goku that still has his Tail Weakness, right? So if Yang manages to grab ahold of it, Goku will just immediately lose... Meh, let's ignore that for now.

Kid Goku has Nimbus and the Power Pole, but... He probably won't abuse those two in order to gain the upper hand on Yang, i.e, fly hundreds of meters away from Yang and just repeatedly attack her with his planetary range pole. Skill-wise, Goku has Yang beat in all regards due to him being... him, so he'll likely land more hits on Yang than she would be able to land hits on him. Speed is equal, and attack potency and durability have been stated - with Goku having a minor advantage at the start, but Yang will gain the lead as the match progresses.

Hmm... Have to go with Yang, at least for now unless somebody presents a good argument for Goku.

Goku used the Powerpole immediately to handle the rabbit boss. It's not completely out of character