Goku vs Shulk rematch (GRACE)

[Schnee_One]

Speed is Equalized so Goku isn't getting close to Shulk because of that.

Please explain how Goku gets past Precog or Monado purge

 

[ProudLearner]

They are equal in speed thus boosting speed by Monado makes no sense,

Since Goku durability is higher than Shulk he should be able to withstand Monado purge.

There precogs will cancel out.

Goku is a better fighter than Shulk.

 

[Schnee_One]

Monado does not boost speed, it paralyzed and powernulls.

It's Hax, Durability means nothing

Shulk can see all possible futures on and 2 Acausality makes Goku's Precog moot.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

For the reasons stated above. Shulk FRA

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Shulk feels it fra

 

[Theglassman12]

@Schnee it does boost speed. That's one of its main abilities

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Grace has started

 

[Bware1]

Monado does not boost speed, it paralyzed and powernulls.
It's Hax, Durability means nothing

Shulk can see all possible futures on and 2 Acausality makes Goku's Precog moot.

Monado does boost speed. It's literally one of his main arts. Also Reality Warping is not out of character if the danger is great enough

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Just to point out, Shulk is actually well above baseline Low 2-C, though not to the same extent Goku is. Zanza and Meyneth's true selves are individually baseline Low 2-C, but Zanza using both Monado's is even stronger than that, with Shulk being above Zanza. Also note, Shulk does lead with Monado Purge and his precognition is on an Omnipresent scale. Monado Purge is also Power Nullification + Paralysis + Perception Nullification.

And actually, I'm in the middle of studying the in depth lore that apparently has been leaked in Xenoblade Chronicles 2. And there's actually possibilities that the Xenoblade cast might be upgraded to Tiers beyond Low 2-C making this going to turn into a stomp.

 

[Bware1]

Just to point out, Shulk is actually well above baseline Low 2-C, though not to the same extent Goku is. Zanza and Meyneth's true selves are individually baseline Low 2-C, but Zanza using both Monado's is even stronger than that, with Shulk being above Zanza. Also note, Shulk does lead with Monado Purge and his precognition is on an Omnipresent scale. Monado Purge is also Power Nullification + Paralysis + Perception Nullification.
And actually, I'm in the middle of studying the in depth lore that apparently has been leaked in Xenoblade Chronicles 2. And there's actually possibilities that the Xenoblade cast might be upgraded to Tiers beyond Low 2-C making this going to turn into a stomp.

You said 2-C to possibly 2-A? Correct? I mean characters like Alvis were stated in the past to be 2-C

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Oh. So this thread should be removed if the upgrades happen

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm actually pretty iffy on 2-A but it would be within the Conduit's range yes. But the feats such as "Merging multiple universes into one" does sound more like 2-C than it does Low 2-C. And the Architect does confirm the Multiverse to be 2-A sized, but it's unknown if anyone's been shown to effect the entirety of it. But we do know there's likely going to be a Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and that the Conduit is inherently the same thing as Zohar from Xenogears.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Okay. If the upgrades happen, we should remove the original Goku vs Shulk from their profiles as well

 

[Schnee_One]

It should be removed anyway

I'm not quite sure why it was added to begin with

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Because there was a different match years ago, but that was long before hax upgrades for Shulk. And even without the likely Tier upgrades, I personally think this is a hax stomp in Shulk's favor. Because once he uses Monado Purge, we have a paralysed base Goku who is Blind, Deaf, incapable of smelling, touching, or tasting, and has 0 Ki sensing abilities. It also nulls Mind reading and Precognition I should say. Which Shulk would obviously oneshot.

I think closing the thread and not adding it to profiles would probably be the best course of action. And I have removed them from their profiles as well.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

If you think it's a haxstomp, then close it